[Ambassadors] Ambassadors list

[David Nalley]

On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Francesco Ugolini
<fugolini at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> 2008/9/13 inode0 <inode0 at gmail.com>:
>
>> I see the role of ambassadors as one empowered to take initiatives to
>> promote Fedora and I see the role of the ambassadors list as being the
>> place for discussion of whatever the ambassadors would like to discuss
>> with each other. And as a believer in open communication I don't mind
>> at all if non-ambassadors participate in discussions and would be
>> happy if barriers to such participation were lowered.
>
> I agree with you, meanwhile there are certain discussions that need to
> be taken in a place with Ambassadors, just because are only
> Ambassadors related:

Let me preface  by saying I understand the distinction between the
EMEA and NA perception of Ambassadors - there is a difference. And
honestly EMEA has been more successful so perhaps we should look at it
in that light.
>
> - Budget: Event Owners and Members of Ambassadors Account System Group
> can ask for this and discuss about it. To plan this one is necessary
> the opinion of those people. How we could filter comment made by
> Ambassadors with the other made by list followers?

One of the unique things about F/LOSS is that we don't care who you
are - we don't care if you are a teenager or someone with a PhD in
CompSci - what matters is the quality of your ideas and the benefit of
you work. Why would we want to filter out potentially good ideas
because they aren't "one of us". At the same time I understand that
being an Ambassador appears to be highly regarded, particularly in the
EMEA - and perhaps we in NA don't value it enough. I think the line of
thinking is that "If anyone can do it, what's the point".

>
> - Policy: if we make a vote to change some important policies (like in
> the past), How can we understand who has the right to vote or not?

I'd think votes could be handled by FAS-backed voting system.

>
> I agree that during the event organization process is necessary the
> participation of all the community, but there are still closed issues
> that must discussed by Ambassadors, just because those are stuff for
> Ambassadors (like code is for Fedora Developers).

but fedora-devel isn't restricted only to "sponsored packagers"



>
> I know it could sound strange but we could find a different solution,
> maybe using Marketing list to discuss with the whole community (not
> only Fedora ones) about events. It's quite simple and one of the it
> would fit the marketing side of an Event.

Aside from not wanting to dilute the status of being an ambassador -
what do we lose by inviting others in?


>
> While Ambassadors will work on Resources Management, New Ambassadors
> Training and Event Tracking, Marketing list would provide the right
> place to talk with the community about the Events, maybe getting
> feedbacks etc, that Ambassadors could use to better manage resources,
> without losing the goal of Ambassadors List and the project itself.

What goals do we miss out on??