[Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-05-19

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(08:00:08 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting - Roll Call any way you like
(08:00:16 PM) StabbyMc: .fas smcbrien
(08:00:17 PM) zodbot: StabbyMc: smcbrien '' <scott at mcbrien.net>
(08:00:31 PM) davdunc: David Duncan dduncan at rubackedup.com
(08:00:37 PM) djf_jeff: .wikilink jfsaucier
(08:00:39 PM) zodbot: djf_jeff: [[User:jfsaucier|Jean-Francois Saucier]]
(08:01:07 PM) laubersm: .wikilink laubersm
(08:01:09 PM) zodbot: laubersm: [[User:laubersm|Susan Lauber]]
(08:01:11 PM) Grantbow: .fas Grantbow
(08:01:12 PM) zodbot: Grantbow: grantbow 'Grant Bowman' <grantbow at gmail.com>
(08:01:34 PM) VileGent: .fas jbwillia
(08:01:35 PM) zodbot: VileGent: jbwillia 'Ben Williams'
<jbwillia at math.vt.edu> - jbwilliams 'Jason Williams'
<jb.williams at tiscali.co.uk>
(08:01:40 PM) crossbytes: kevin higgins fas:crossbytes
(08:03:55 PM) inode0: anyone else here for the FAmNA meeting?
ajamison5579? lcafiero? ke4qqq?
(08:04:06 PM) VileGent: .wikilink jbwillia
(08:04:07 PM) zodbot: VileGent: [[User:jbwillia|Ben Williams]]
(08:04:08 PM) ajamison5579: I am here
(08:04:19 PM) inode0: .fas ajamison5579
(08:04:21 PM) zodbot: inode0: ajamison 'Andrew Jamison' <linux at blogmethat.net>
(08:04:29 PM) ajamison5579: ajamison
(08:04:34 PM) ajamison5579: is what you want to .fas
(08:04:41 PM) inode0: why? :)
(08:04:56 PM) ajamison5579: ajamison was taken when i registered my nick
(08:04:58 PM) ajamison5579: lol
(08:05:14 PM) inode0: ok, it searches nicks now too
(08:05:26 PM) inode0: alrighty, let's begin
(08:05:36 PM) inode0:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-05-19
(08:05:57 PM) inode0: Ok if we just vote on meeting times and get that
out of the way?
(08:06:14 PM) StabbyMc: hit it.
(08:06:21 PM) inode0: For those not attending last time ...
(08:06:37 PM) inode0: We are setting a new schedule beginning in June
for our meetings
(08:06:52 PM) inode0: If you did *not* vote last meeting please do this time
(08:07:04 PM) inode0: First choice ...
(08:07:23 PM) inode0: (a) Continue as now alternating Tuesdays and Thursdays
(08:07:53 PM) inode0: (b) Meet 1st and 3rd *day on the month (might be
either Tuesday or Thursday)
(08:08:52 PM) inode0: so (b) is that we meet on the same day (we'll
select the day if this option wins)
(08:09:23 PM) inode0: we have a 0-0 tie now - anyone want to break it?
(08:10:03 PM) StabbyMc: I would, but I already voted :-(
(08:10:39 PM) inode0: no one cares?
(08:10:49 PM) inode0: is the question clear?
(08:11:00 PM) inode0: is anyone still here besides me and StabbyMc?
(08:11:02 PM) laubersm: q is clear - it makes no difference to me..
(08:11:09 PM) VileGent: yes
(08:11:28 PM) VileGent: but i voted last meeting
(08:11:31 PM) crossbytes: we
(08:11:36 PM) crossbytes: already voted
(08:11:37 PM) StabbyMc: Looks like the result of our last vote reigns supreme.
(08:11:45 PM) davdunc: It works for me either way.
(08:11:48 PM) inode0: ok, I guess no one wants to vote who hasn't so
we'll proceed
(08:11:51 PM) Grantbow: either way for me
(08:12:15 PM) inode0: the vote last time suggested it will be the 1st
and 3rd Tuesday going forward then
(08:12:25 PM) inode0: I'll send out an announcement after the meeting
(08:12:40 PM) inode0: Announcements?
(08:12:53 PM) ***ke4qqq is here but late sorry
(08:13:14 PM) inode0: shall we let ke4qqq vote? :)
(08:14:00 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
(08:14:14 PM) inode0: Any event owners need help with anything?
(08:14:33 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: ping
(08:14:47 PM) djf_jeff: pong
(08:14:57 PM) inode0: your release party has an issue I think
(08:15:07 PM) djf_jeff: not for the moment ;)
(08:15:16 PM) inode0: can it be rescheduled for after the release?
(08:15:37 PM) djf_jeff: it goes well, many people to come, poster
finished (I will post them on mailing list tomorrow)
(08:15:55 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: are you aware the release was pushed
back a week?
(08:15:59 PM) VileGent:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-May/msg00007.html
(08:16:26 PM) djf_jeff: hmm, nope, ok, I have a problem now...
(08:16:32 PM) Grantbow: ouch
(08:17:10 PM) inode0: it is safer to leave a couple weeks for
slippage, but it is guesswork
(08:17:45 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: let us know if we can do anything to help
(08:17:57 PM) djf_jeff: yeah, but we had the Red Hat guy in the city
for this date, I guess I will have to do some work
(08:18:16 PM) inode0: which Red Hat guy?
(08:18:47 PM) djf_jeff: Richard Cabana, Eric Schaffer and Michael Lessard
(08:19:01 PM) inode0: pre-release party!
(08:19:15 PM) djf_jeff: hehe
(08:19:28 PM) inode0: I have some F10 media for you :)
(08:19:41 PM) StabbyMc: djf_jeff: are they from the RH Toronto office?
(08:20:07 PM) djf_jeff: I will try to push the date, I am sure I will
be able to do so
(08:20:11 PM) djf_jeff: Montreal Office
(08:20:26 PM) inode0: Other events?
(08:20:37 PM) ***StabbyMc didn't know there was a Montreal office...
(08:21:23 PM) inode0: still no date for FAD F12
(08:22:23 PM) inode0: Were event owners supposed to have some requests
tonight or was that for the next meeting?
(08:22:51 PM) inode0: Budget requests?
(08:22:54 PM) StabbyMc: Do we have any events around June 13 related to SELF?
(08:23:05 PM) inode0: FAD on June 14
(08:23:18 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: want to talk about SELF?
(08:24:03 PM) ***herlo is lurking...but not really here
(08:24:57 PM) ke4qqq: sure
(08:25:02 PM) ke4qqq: SELF is June 13th
(08:25:10 PM) ke4qqq: lots of really cool people are coming and so should you
(08:25:18 PM) ke4qqq: http://southeastlinuxfest.org
(08:25:25 PM) ke4qqq: we have 3 fedora speakers
(08:25:43 PM) ke4qqq: including our own gregdek, stickster_afk, and herlo
(08:26:30 PM) ke4qqq: It's being held in South Carolina
(08:26:40 PM) ke4qqq: so I expect people like StabbyMc will make it :)
(08:26:48 PM) ke4qqq: eof
(08:26:55 PM) ***StabbyMc stabs ke4qqq
(08:26:58 PM) ajamison5579: where is that held exactly?
(08:27:10 PM) StabbyMc: Clemson, South Carolina
(08:27:13 PM) ke4qqq: Clemson University, Clemson, SC
(08:27:17 PM) inode0: VileGent is going?
(08:27:17 PM) ke4qqq: just outside of Greenville
(08:27:23 PM) VileGent: yes
(08:27:31 PM) inode0: so lots of ambassadors
(08:27:47 PM) inode0: is there a FAD sign-up page yet?
(08:28:11 PM) ke4qqq: there is a SELF sign-up page
(08:28:19 PM) ke4qqq: but haven't had a chance to hit the fad sign up page yet
(08:28:22 PM) ke4qqq: speaking of
(08:28:23 PM) VileGent: and i have heard that some people from Va Tech
and NovaLUG are attending
(08:28:24 PM) ke4qqq: there is a docs fad
(08:28:30 PM) ke4qqq: outstanding
(08:28:37 PM) ke4qqq: we REALLY need help getting the word out
(08:28:51 PM) ke4qqq: so if you are in the SE, please start talking about us
(08:28:55 PM) StabbyMc: I've been talking it up at ALE (Atlanta Linux
Enthusiasts), another meeting Thursday.
(08:28:55 PM) ajamison5579: i grew up an hour south of Virginia tech
(08:29:50 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: in case you run off before we do budget
do you need anything for SELF?
(08:30:05 PM) ke4qqq: no
(08:30:08 PM) ke4qqq: we are set for SELF
(08:30:12 PM) ke4qqq: aside from F11 media
(08:30:19 PM) ke4qqq: which is largely out of our control
(08:30:23 PM) inode0: we will cross our fingers on that one
(08:30:33 PM) dthomasdigital: Wish I was set for NMlinuxfest and sure
wish I could make it to SELF
(08:31:42 PM) inode0: Anyone here from the Open Source Bridge?
(08:31:48 PM) ke4qqq: dthomasdigital: an FSF staffer tells me that
Airtran has cheap flights to ATL
(08:34:09 PM) inode0: ok, let's go to budget
(08:34:21 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget
(08:34:33 PM) inode0: still the lame lack of information as last time :(
(08:34:45 PM) ianweller: woo meeting
(08:34:45 PM) ***ianweller lurks
(08:35:09 PM) inode0: we really need people who spend money to update
this page as details become known about how much we spend
(08:36:02 PM) StabbyMc: What's the word on pens, tats, and case badges?
(08:36:05 PM) inode0: davdunc: dthomasdigital: please fill in final
numbers for your orders although don't worry about the estimates we
have there
(08:36:15 PM) davdunc: thanks.
(08:36:17 PM) davdunc: will do.
(08:36:42 PM) inode0: but modify the description too to reflect what
was actually ordered please
(08:37:20 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 will there be any money for NM
LinuxFest in November?
(08:37:22 PM) inode0: max send his version of the budget which was,
well, somewhat different as usual
(08:38:02 PM) inode0: dthomasdigital: you'll need to make a specific request
(08:38:36 PM) crossbytes: will case badges be available for order at
https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/?
(08:38:44 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 is there an official form? or contact?
(08:38:59 PM) inode0: we can talk about that I guess
(08:39:08 PM) inode0: crossbytes: I don't know, I doubt it though
(08:39:18 PM) crossbytes: ok
(08:39:22 PM) dthomasdigital: Also I have the exact amount for the
case badges should I list that or should Max?
(08:39:30 PM) inode0: crossbytes: we'll likely include some in
ambassador kits and use them at events
(08:39:59 PM) inode0: dthomasdigital: you should, max keeps separate numbers
(08:40:11 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 gotcha
(08:40:31 PM) inode0: so there is not a form or anything else about
making requests for funds
(08:40:41 PM) inode0: perhaps there should be
(08:40:55 PM) dthomasdigital: So I just request  here?
(08:41:10 PM) inode0: or a wiki page for the event with expenses and
other information we can look at
(08:41:44 PM) dthomasdigital: I will make that request thanks
(08:41:55 PM) inode0: we want to (a) have something to base fund
grants on and (b) have transparency about what we spend the money on
(08:42:33 PM) dthomasdigital: I'm hopping for 500.00 to secure the venue
(08:42:34 PM) ke4qqq: right - and we want to see what you spend
moneyon, so if you have to fly herlo out, and it costs 300 bucks, we
want to see that as a line item.
(08:42:34 PM) inode0: stickster_afk keeps a spreadsheet of sorts on
the wiki for FUDcons, you might look at that
(08:42:54 PM) dthomasdigital: Understood thanks
(08:43:22 PM) inode0: if you want general sponsorship I think that
request can come any time (actually the sooner the better)
(08:44:02 PM) inode0: because we can theoretically handle event
sponsorship out of any quarter's budget
(08:44:21 PM) dthomasdigital: Here is our sponsor Prospectus
http://nmlinuxfest.ning.com/page/sponsor-prospectus
(08:45:08 PM) inode0: we want the crappy booth location at the front
door of the expo hall :)
(08:45:17 PM) ajamison5579: lol
(08:45:29 PM) ke4qqq: lol
(08:45:38 PM) dthomasdigital: I was thinking by the bathrooms lol
(08:45:59 PM) VileGent: near but not right next to please
(08:46:06 PM) dthomasdigital: I was put there at a show once turned
out as the best location.
(08:46:10 PM) inode0: so I personally think sponsoring this would be
great and I will support that
(08:46:41 PM) inode0: it would be nice to be able to say something
about what presence Fedora will have though before doing so
(08:47:08 PM) inode0: who is planning to go? is anyone planning a FAD there?
(08:47:21 PM) inode0: are there any Fedora speakers?
(08:48:29 PM) ***lcafiero sneaks into the back of the room and sits down
(08:48:54 PM) inode0: given that we will be having a good presence at
the event I'm happy to push to fund sponsorship in Q2 even
(08:50:07 PM) dthomasdigital: I'm going to make sure Fedora is well supported
(08:50:11 PM) inode0: lcafiero: we skipped over OSB but I'd like to go
back if you have anything to say about it since it is coming up soon
(08:50:52 PM) dthomasdigital: I've been so very happy with all the
support fedora has given us in New Mexico I'm really hoping to make
some real in roads.
(08:52:33 PM) inode0: well, want to fill us in now on case badges
since that came up?
(08:52:34 PM) lcafiero: inode: nothing to add re OSB.
(08:53:35 PM) dthomasdigital: Case badge proofs should have been here
today but where not, sent for the tracking number
(08:54:14 PM) dthomasdigital: as soon as I see a proof I'll give the
OK for the run, they say that should take about a day then about 3
days to ship
(08:54:38 PM) inode0: but we would expect them before the end of the
month which is great, can get them off to Q2 events
(08:55:43 PM) inode0: davdunc: want to fill us in on the exciting news
about massive tattoo supplies? :)
(08:55:53 PM) davdunc: sure!
(08:56:14 PM) davdunc: I ordered 10,000 of the 1.5 x 1.5 in tattoos
and they look lovely!
(08:56:23 PM) dthomasdigital: Yes before the end of the month for sure
(08:56:35 PM) inode0: those being the regular talk bubble logo?
(08:56:42 PM) davdunc: correct.
(08:57:03 PM) davdunc: I also ordered 5k of the "empowered by Fedora"
at 1.5 x 2 inches.
(08:57:18 PM) davdunc: but they got the order wrong and we have 10k of
those now too.
(08:57:33 PM) davdunc: so 20,000 tattoos to disperse in all.
(08:57:38 PM) lcafiero: woo hoo
(08:57:46 PM) inode0: we will use them without any problem
(08:57:53 PM) davdunc: My wife is wearing one right now.
(08:57:59 PM) dthomasdigital: case badges 5000 units
(08:57:59 PM) inode0: how do you like the empowered by tattoos?
(08:58:20 PM) davdunc: I love it.  My wife has rather dark skin and
even the small lettering is easy to read.
(08:58:33 PM) ***inode0 can't wait to see them
(08:58:45 PM) ke4qqq: pics!!! show the world that we now have ink to
display our love for fedora!
(08:59:13 PM) davdunc: the color is good.  they left the larger white
field transparent, but they got the logo white on both.
(08:59:16 PM) davdunc: they look great.
(08:59:27 PM) VileGent: davdunc, pics please
(08:59:48 PM) davdunc: k.  I will post them to the ambassador list in
a few minutes.
(08:59:48 PM) ***inode0 senses excitement in the room
(08:59:53 PM) davdunc: :-)
(09:00:09 PM) ke4qqq: links of course
(09:00:18 PM) ke4qqq: and to the plant?
(09:00:20 PM) ke4qqq: planet
(09:00:24 PM) davdunc: of course.  I am a text-only kind of emailer.
(09:00:29 PM) inode0: so, those can be shipped off to Q2 events as
well ... if you need them soon ping me
(09:00:34 PM) davdunc: yea. better to put them on planet.
(09:00:55 PM) davdunc: they are coming to you UPS inode0
(09:01:12 PM) inode0: right, send me the bill for the shipping too davdunc
(09:01:19 PM) davdunc: kk.   will do.
(09:02:16 PM) inode0: StabbyMc: so no word on pens
(09:02:17 PM) Grantbow: This was a fun first meeting, thank you.  I
have to run to www.balug.org and give away some F11 Live CDs.  Take
care.
(09:02:34 PM) inode0: thanks for coming Grantbow
(09:03:35 PM) lcafiero: See you Grantbow
(09:03:36 PM) inode0: Let's go to Open Floor
(09:03:53 PM) ***inode0 steps away for 3 minutes
(09:04:44 PM) ***lcameron hears crickets
(09:05:11 PM) ***ianweller doesn't and think lcameron should get his
hearing checked
(09:05:13 PM) ***lcafiero wanted to introduce Grantbow since he's the
new addition to the California crew.
(09:05:27 PM) ianweller: lcameron: ;)
(09:05:32 PM) lcafiero: no, ianweller, I hear them too.
(09:05:37 PM) djf_jeff: For my part, Freemedia Canada is going strong,
we have shipped ~15 cd/dvd in the last week and I have "recruited" a
member on the team (I think he was already shipping cd before the
creation of Canada branch)
(09:06:14 PM) djf_jeff: also, I have invited him to join the Canada
Ambassadors to grow our presence, he will think about and come back to
me soon
(09:06:25 PM) lcafiero: Great, djf_jeff
(09:07:30 PM) djf_jeff: do you include a message with the CD you send
with Freemedia?
(09:08:35 PM) VileGent: djf_jeff,  i only check to see if they want the re-spin
(09:08:39 PM) djf_jeff: I have made a small sheet saying to join us in
#fedora for a talk and where to get help if needed
(09:10:26 PM) inode0: I think that is nice djf_jeff
(09:10:31 PM) lcafiero: Good addition
(09:11:09 PM) inode0: davdunc: are the tattoos on a roll or individually cut?
(09:11:51 PM) davdunc: individually cut.
(09:11:55 PM) inode0: sweet
(09:12:06 PM) ***inode0 has a suggestion
(09:12:39 PM) inode0: at events you can take a tattoo with you but
only if you have one applied in a visible location at the event
(09:12:51 PM) ke4qqq: davdunc: I desperately need some Sonic
Overnighted - can you set it up as a dell replacement part??
(09:13:16 PM) davdunc: ke4qqq: You have a four-hour contract?
(09:13:18 PM) davdunc: :-D
(09:13:24 PM) ke4qqq: davdunc: several
(09:13:53 PM) davdunc: I'll see what I can do. ;-)
(09:14:08 PM) davdunc: the tattoo FRU!
(09:14:16 PM) ke4qqq: indeed!
(09:14:56 PM) VileGent: lol i would say what i need but i rather not
(09:15:27 PM) VileGent: SG335 shuttle motherboard
(09:16:22 PM) inode0:
http://blog.mrtomlinux.org/index.php?post/HowTo-run-a-successful-IP
(09:16:28 PM) ***davdunc just took a round of pretty crappy pictures.
another minute.
(09:19:00 PM) ***inode0 doesn't want to close the meeting without pictures
(09:19:46 PM) VileGent: but it will be 30 minutes before the planet
updates correct
(09:20:00 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 about NM Sponsorship can I add
the info on my fedora wiki page or should it be elsewhere?
(09:20:36 PM) inode0: attach it to the event page or create one for it
(09:21:13 PM) dthomasdigital: understood
(09:21:42 PM) inode0: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11
(09:22:03 PM) inode0: there is an example, and the Budget link might
be a model for us as well
(09:22:57 PM) lcafiero: dthomasdigital, I will probably be going to
NM, but I'd prefer someone closer handle the FAD.
(09:23:02 PM) dthomasdigital: I'll stick to this format so we have
some kind of a template to work off of.
(09:23:15 PM) davdunc: putting one up on flickr now.
(09:23:26 PM) dthomasdigital: lcafiero I'm lining up some folks just for that
(09:23:51 PM) inode0: we should snag smooge if possible
(09:24:32 PM) inode0: I'll talk to him about a FAD when I bump into him next
(09:24:43 PM) dthomasdigital: smooge would be perfect
(09:25:57 PM) lcafiero: dthomasdigital/inode0 great.
(09:26:07 PM) davdunc:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davdunc/3547797738/  is after 28 hours.
(09:26:46 PM) lcafiero: oooOOOOoooooh!
(09:26:53 PM) lcameron: I want 1
(09:27:19 PM) davdunc: I hope you _all_  get them very soon in your
ambassador kits. :-)
(09:27:22 PM) lcafiero: +1
(09:27:39 PM) lcafiero: They may never make it out of the event box
(09:27:59 PM) ***lcafiero wants to make himself look like a Maori with
tattoos all over his face. :-)
(09:28:16 PM) davdunc: I put all of the 1.5 inch in the mail.
(09:28:23 PM) ke4qqq: to me?
(09:28:32 PM) inode0: lcafiero: you get 50 for that but we need pictures!
(09:28:32 PM) davdunc: ;-) to inode0
(09:28:49 PM) lcafiero: Heh.
(09:29:01 PM) davdunc: the 1.5 inch ones are going to be perfect for the face.
(09:29:34 PM) lcafiero: Someone else did this for a show -- I can't
remember who (and I think it was MacWorld) -- and people were lining
up around the block for them.
(09:30:48 PM) VileGent: i know that firefox has done them
(09:31:17 PM) VileGent: davdunc, they look good especially after that
time length
(09:31:32 PM) ke4qqq: thats awesome davdunc !!!
(09:31:49 PM) davdunc: I think so.  My wife is an avid gardener, so
that's after working in the yard and the sun all day today.
(09:32:17 PM) davdunc: I put one up that I applied just now, but I
can't seem to hold still for the camera.
(09:33:25 PM) inode0: I have some old BSD tattoos from many years ago
(09:39:31 PM) inode0: ok, I think we should wrap this up and head back
to #fedora-ambassador
(09:39:38 PM) inode0: thanks for coming everyone
(09:39:44 PM) inode0: 5
(09:39:46 PM) inode0: 4
(09:39:48 PM) inode0: 3
(09:39:49 PM) dthomasdigital: bye all
(09:39:51 PM) inode0: 2
(09:39:54 PM) inode0: 1
(09:39:58 PM) inode0: EOM