[Ambassadors] Media discount = sponsoring?

[Jukka Palander]

Both above and below are true.

We have no rules to decide how we react sponsor requests (or do we?).

I mean in example the following:

What if we have a sponsor giving us 1 Million € or $ and another
sponsoring something small (say 500 €/$ worth). Then they both want to
have their logo on site! What-and-how do we do it? Some might claim more
visibility for a bigger sum and then they start asking reports like
click/view and in which pages they are present etc.

We cannot do that and that's the whole thing I took on the table. We
should have rules for this first -even the "free" money and discounts
are inviting for all but then, after all "there are no such thing as a
free lunch".

--
Jukka


On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 09:05 -0400, Ryan Lewis wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Can someone tell me who this sponsor is? We aren't debating just any
> sponsor here. We can investigate if this sponsor might be bad for our
> image.
> 
> -rhl
> 
> 2010/7/30 Manuel Escudero <Jmlevick at gmail.com>
>         
>         
>         2010/7/30 Jukka Palander <jukka at devspain.com>
>         
>         
>                 On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 12:42 +0200, Mathieu Bridon
>                 wrote:
>                 > On 07/30/2010 12:16 PM, Jukka Palander wrote:
>                 > > Hmmm.
>                 > >
>                 > > Adding commercial logos into the Fedora site is
>                 bit dangerous!
>                 > >
>                 > > At least have to be careful in these:
>                 > >
>                 > > 1) not to give an idea that Fedora has anything to
>                 do with commercial
>                 > > products/companies
>                 > >
>                 > > 2) must be clearly mentioned, that they are
>                 sponsors only (for a
>                 > > particular section) and does not have any other
>                 involvement to the
>                 > > Fedora or its development
>                 > >
>                 > > 3) must be aware who the sponsors are and do they
>                 fit into the "Fedora
>                 > > world"
>                 >
>                 > You do realize we already have some sponsors for
>                 infrastructure and we
>                 > already display their logos on our main page, right?
>                 >
>                 >
>                 
>                 
>                 Yes, I am not against sponsors. Just wanted to remind
>                 those issues.
>                 
>                 We'll never know if we have a (wanna-be) sponsor who
>                 we do not want to
>                 be displayed in the official F-site. For those
>                 situations it is good
>                 that it's been discussed.
>                 As I mentioned in section 3 -> "must be aware who they
>                 are"! --> and
>                 then make the decision!
>                 
>                 ..or are you happy to take some big money from them to
>                 Fedora and then
>                 find out that the so called sponsor is somehow bad for
>                 us (like
>                 XXX-site, malware or spamming site etc)?
>                 
>                 Also, there is always risk that the "sponsor" starts
>                 telling us what to
>                 do because they've paid the money! ..be aware -they
>                 have to be sponsors
>                 and clearly sponsors only!
>                 
>                 This issue has nothing to do with the current sponsors
>                 though, but still
>                 I think it is very easy to give an picture that they
>                 have something
>                 deeper to do with Fedora and therefore I would "think
>                 first and act
>                 afterwards".
>                 
>                 --
>                 Jukka
>                 
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>         
>         
>         
>         I think that BEFORE telling about if the sponsor is good or
>         bad, we have to tlak about the Discount... is it going to be
>         an important one? 
>         Something that we can say: "Ok, it's worth the risk" or not,
>         because we can accept or decline offers as a community but the
>         important thing 
>         in here is to be awared of the REAL benefit that we can get
>         from here to the Project.
>         
>         
>         By example if it is going to be a very little discount and
>         most of the community thinks it's risky 
>         to accept a sponsor, then, Why accept the Sponsor? Let's talk
>         about numbers, and then we can make a whole investigation
>         about the PROS and CONS of a sponsorship.
>         
>         
>         That's just my opinion.
>         
>         -- 
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