[Ambassadors] ambassadors Digest, Vol 94, Issue 12
Nelson Marques
07721 at ipam.pt
Sun Mar 28 14:52:08 UTC 2010
Thank you for your expertise on this as a former gang member and Fedora
Ambassador.
I rest my case.
nmarques
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 04:08 -0500, Xavier Naldo wrote:
> In regards to message 7 and onwards, listen, who cares about what the
> meanings of the page on release notes are. Its jt plain marketing and
> these discussions are too political. There is no way to be that
> neutral and try not to offend everyone. This is an international
> distro and who cares about what the photos mean or words mean. it just
> plain fun to see the advertising page and when I looked at it, I dont
> see anything wrong with it. So please, enough of the political
> interpretations and lets just move forward to the real topics at hand,
> by the way, I was in a gang and none of these things are ever remotely
> associated with O.G., ok? I know what ganstas are so please this
> release page DOES NOT have any associations of it!!
>
>
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> 1. Re: calling for backup (Pierros Papadeas)
> 2. Re: calling for backup (Felix Kaechele)
> 3. REPORT - Open Fest 2010 (Pierros Papadeas)
> 4. Re: calling for backup (Neville A. Cross)
> 5. Re: calling for backup (David Nalley)
> 6. Re: calling for backup (Neville A. Cross)
> 7. Re: FYI Fedora 12 one page release notes. :) (Nelson
> Marques)
> 8. Re: FYI Fedora 12 one page release notes. :) (Mathieu
> Bridon)
> 9. Re: FYI Fedora 12 one page release notes. :) (Neville A.
> Cross)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:01:40 +0200
> From: Pierros Papadeas <ppapadeas at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] calling for backup
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
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> 2010/3/27 Larry Cafiero <larry.cafiero at gmail.com>:
> > Max --
> >
> > Sounds good to me, and I don't have any amendments to make.
> Let me know if I
> > can join the rotation.
> >
> > Larry Cafiero
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Max Spevack
> <mspevack at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Today seems like a good day to write this blog
> post. ?Interested to hear
> >> people's feedback.
> >>
> >> http://spevack.livejournal.com/103305.html
> >>
> >> --Max
>
> Max,
>
> This sounds like a fun-yet-important thing to do for the
> Fedora Project :)
> I am interested too in joining the rotation.
>
> Possibly we could also divide the time-money-responsibilities
> into the
> 4 regional FADs and FUDCON leaders. This way we could have
> better
> results, as one "global guy" cannot "feel" each regional
> community as
> a "regional guy" could do.
>
> Then again the "4-regions" division could be like
> fragmentation of the
> global community. How about a guy for NA and LATAM, and
> another guy
> for EMEA and APAC ?
> This seems like a nice idea, as NA and LATAM have many things
> in
> common, just like EMEA and APAC (culture, proximity, less
> travel
> expenses etc)
>
> What do you thing?
>
> ~?
>
> --
> Pierros Papadeas
> PGP key: 0x6130DBF8
> http://pierros.papadeas.gr
> pierros at papadeas.gr
> liknus @ GRnet , Freenode
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:47:26 +0100
> From: Felix Kaechele <felix at fetzig.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] calling for backup
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Message-ID: <4BADFE5E.8080208 at fetzig.org>
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>
> I think this is really interesting. I too would like to join
> the rotation :D
> Maybe it would be good to have two people doing this as a
> team. Ideally
> they would be in different timezones so just in case someone
> needs some
> attention by either one of those guys there always is at least
> one guy
> available to talk to.
>
> --Felix
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:20:24 +0200
> From: Pierros Papadeas <ppapadeas at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Ambassadors] REPORT - Open Fest 2010
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
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> Hello my fellow Ambassadors!
>
> Last weekend we had a nice event here in Athens [1] and Fedora
> was
> there with a great Booth and many people :)
>
> Needless to say, we had the best booth and presence as a
> community
> there and we attracted many newcomers especially with our
> Translation
> Marathon for Fedora 13 during the event.
> On the wiki page [2] you can find some blogposts-reports on
> the event
> and this [3] nice gallery of photos from our presence there.
>
> We had a dual-projector setup with many swag (mostly produced
> by us)
> and some nice little ideas (like "Try me!" signs)
>
> Many thanks to all the Greek fellows, that helped the Fedora
> be on its
> best one more time :)
>
> Next target for Fedora Greek Community is FossComm 2010 [4]
> (we
> started organizing already [5]) which is the biggest foss
> event in
> Greece and we are more than sure that it's going to be a
> fabulous
> appearance of Fedora there with many new persons helping out.
>
> ~?
>
> [1] http://openfest.teipir.gr
> [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenFest_2010
> [3] http://picasaweb.google.com/saliyath/OpenfestAthens2010
> [4] http://fosscomm.gr
> [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Fosscomm2010
>
> --
> Pierros Papadeas
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> http://pierros.papadeas.gr
> pierros at papadeas.gr
> liknus @ GRnet , Freenode
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:49:41 -0400
> From: "Neville A. Cross" <nacross at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] calling for backup
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
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> 2010/3/27 Pierros Papadeas <ppapadeas at gmail.com>:
> >
> > This sounds like a fun-yet-important thing to do for the
> Fedora Project :)
> > I am interested too in joining the rotation.
> >
> > Possibly we could also divide the
> time-money-responsibilities into the
> > 4 regional FADs and FUDCON leaders. This way we could have
> better
> > results, as one "global guy" cannot "feel" each regional
> community as
> > a "regional guy" could do.
> >
> > Then again the "4-regions" division could be like
> fragmentation of the
> > global community. How about a guy for NA and LATAM, and
> another guy
> > for EMEA and APAC ?
> > This seems like a nice idea, as NA and LATAM have many
> things in
> > common, just like EMEA and APAC (culture, proximity, less
> travel
> > expenses etc)
> >
> > What do you thing?
> >
> > ~?
> >
>
> I agree with Pierros, fun and important. I have to add that
> it is
> also a challenging position as may require deal we people's
> passions.
>
> I think that up and running may be true about 15 hours weekly.
> But to
> get there will require a lot more hours each week.
>
> Probably I will be a good idea to gather some help from now
> until this
> position it appointed, and I will like to help.
>
>
>
> --
> Neville
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
> Linux User # 473217
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:23:46 -0400
> From: David Nalley <david at gnsa.us>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] calling for backup
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Cc: fudcon-planning at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Message-ID:
>
> <d6e6dfeb1003270823h197e2726j82ddbed582b5c243 at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> on Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Max Spevack
> <mspevack at redhat.com> wrote:
> > Today seems like a good day to write this blog
> post. ?Interested to hear
> > people's feedback.
> >
> > http://spevack.livejournal.com/103305.html
> >
> > --Max
> > --
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> > ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
> >
>
>
> I think this is an outstanding idea. I have one comment re
> the rotating.
>
> So from an outsiders perspective, I infer that there must a
> lot of
> internal wrangling that occurs, especially for the larger
> events such
> as FUDcon. I suspect that alot of the internal wrangling (and
> I don't
> mean to make it sound bad, it's just part of the process, be
> that
> budgetary or whatever else) is the reason that the community
> at large
> hasn't picked up the responsibility. (And if it isn't, and
> this is
> something the community should be picking up, please correct
> me, I'd
> hate to think that we want FUDcons and FADs so bad and yet
> aren't
> doing the work thats needed if it's something we can do). That
> leads
> me to believe that this internal wrangling has a learning
> curve that
> is non-trivial, and that repeating it would be a waste of time
> and
> resources. If it takes a month to get someone up to speed,
> having to
> repeat it for each FUDcon sounds likely to be an excercise in
> frustration.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:46:03 -0400
> From: "Neville A. Cross" <nacross at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] calling for backup
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Message-ID:
>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:23 AM, David Nalley <david at gnsa.us>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I think this is an outstanding idea. ?I have one comment re
> the rotating.
> >
> > So from an outsiders perspective, I infer that there must a
> lot of
> > internal wrangling that occurs, especially for the larger
> events such
> > as FUDcon. I suspect that alot of the internal wrangling
> (and I don't
> > mean to make it sound bad, it's just part of the process, be
> that
> > budgetary or whatever else) is the reason that the community
> at large
> > hasn't picked up the responsibility. (And if it isn't, and
> this is
> > something the community should be picking up, please correct
> me, I'd
> > hate to think that we want FUDcons and FADs so bad and yet
> aren't
> > doing the work thats needed if it's something we can do).
> That leads
> > me to believe that this internal wrangling has a learning
> curve that
> > is non-trivial, and that repeating it would be a waste of
> time and
> > resources. If it takes a month to get someone up to speed,
> having to
> > repeat it for each FUDcon sounds likely to be an excercise
> in
> > frustration.
>
> I think that the open participation and the aim to provide
> chances to
> different locations for events are bound to require this
> repeating
> exercise, frustrating and all... yet another characteristic
> for the
> person appointed for such task: Patience (lot of it!)
>
>
> --
> Neville
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
> Linux User # 473217
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:14:03 +0000
> From: Nelson Marques <07721 at ipam.pt>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FYI Fedora 12 one page release
> notes. :)
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Message-ID: <1269710043.2635.1.camel at localhost>
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>
>
> It's nicely done, though on "Help make Fedora" I strongly
> disagree with
> the image presented as it clear shows signs of "Ghetto
> culture". You
> shouldn't address an international community displaying such
> symbols.
> Every time that Communication hits International Communities
> or
> Minorities, it should be reviewed carefully at cultural level.
>
> Just my 2 cents...
>
> nm
>
>
> On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 03:33 -0400, David Ramsey wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Greetings. :)
> >
> > =============================================
> >
> > FYI Fedora 12 one page release notes. :)
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_tour
> >
> > Looks very professional and useful. :)
> >
> > =============================================
> >
> > Sending positive Fedora 12 and Fedora 13 energy from my
> computer to yours. :v)
> >
> > Please have a great day and/or evening! :~)
> >
> > Thank You
> > Sincerely
> > =-=-=-=-=
> > - David -
> > =-=-=-=-=
> > David Ramsey
> > ---------------------------------
> > ????
> > ????????
> > 10 people 10 colors
> > Different strokes for different folks
> > =
> > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador
> dramsey at fedoraproject.org
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey
> > * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the
> Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - 2.6.32.10-88.fc12.i686.PAE
> > * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the
> Fedora 13 (Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33.1-19.fc13.i686.PAE
> > * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM running the
> Fedora 13
> > (Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-1.fc13.i686.PAE
> > With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two
> SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks.
> > =
> >
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> Nelson Marques <07721 at ipam.pt>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:24:15 +0100
> From: Mathieu Bridon <bochecha at fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FYI Fedora 12 one page release
> notes. :)
> To: 07721 at ipam.pt, ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Message-ID:
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> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 18:14, Nelson Marques <07721 at ipam.pt>
> wrote:
> >
> > It's nicely done, though on "Help make Fedora" I strongly
> disagree with
> > the image presented as it clear shows signs of "Ghetto
> culture".
>
> You mean 3 friends being happy to work together is a sign of ?
> ghetto
> culture ? ?
>
> This photo shows nothing more than how great it is to be
> contributing
> to the Fedora Project, don't try to see anything more :)
>
>
> ----------
> Mathieu Bridon
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:37:55 -0400
> From: "Neville A. Cross" <nacross at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FYI Fedora 12 one page release
> notes. :)
> To: 07721 at ipam.pt, ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Message-ID:
>
> <f1706c1e1003271037j49796f47kba8cc0e6a0b1bc75 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Nelson Marques
> <07721 at ipam.pt> wrote:
> >
> > It's nicely done, though on "Help make Fedora" I strongly
> disagree with
> > the image presented as it clear shows signs of "Ghetto
> culture". You
> > shouldn't address an international community displaying such
> symbols.
> > Every time that Communication hits International Communities
> or
> > Minorities, it should be reviewed carefully at cultural
> level.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents...
> >
> > nm
> >
> >
>
> I looked for the wiki and found that at:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes
> Can you elaborate? Seriuosly.
> Because as I am part of the international community, I am too
> far off
> to identify what you mean by Ghetto Culture in that picture. I
> really
> don't get your point, and I think is worth exploring.
> For me one thumb up is good. Extending thumb and little finger
> is a
> surfer sing, people have told me it means a wish for good
> waves to
> ride on.
>
> Best regards
>
> --
> Neville
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
> Linux User # 473217
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