[Ambassadors] ambassadors Digest, Vol 94, Issue 16
Nelson Marques
07721 at ipam.pt
Sun Mar 28 18:54:04 UTC 2010
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 13:44 -0500, Xavier Naldo wrote:
> SUBJECT: Re: Contents of ambassadors digest...
>
>
> Just to correct ill-informed minds, I was never an ambassador in the
> first place. So we can happily dispose of the statement from whoever
> stated it.
It's not ill-minded. It's a concern that people around Marketing have
and I can provide solid information, better, scientific production work
regarding the usage of symbology in communication and it's importance.
> Just like one of our friends has pointed out, the last picture on the
> bottom of the flyer with the dude on the far right with the thumb and
> pinky finger extended outwards does NOT represent O.G. or Original
> Gangster.
Really? Google for it.
> I am not sure in other cultures/countries, but here in the good 'ole
> USA, that picture does NOT show any signs of O.G. It means good luck
> and ride high and good waves!! So lets drop this issue and move on.
Unnecessary information and not accurate information. That symbolize has
a name provided before and some recognized cultural associations with
it, from satanism to urban myths. So please try to be constructive, this
is not a private hype, it's something that really matters and that is
described in Marketing Management Scientific Production Work for ages,
for further information, please check Philip Kotler's Marketing
Management, I would recommend the 12th Edition, or any other scientific
database like ABN/Inform.
> Probably a more productive way to address this in the first place
> would be to first advise the marketing team, instead of the whole
> mailing list.....I'm just saying my 2 cents :)
OK, then I will inform the Marketing List one more time regarding this.
And for your information as posted before, I had already submitted a
document with a simple communication matrix that clearly points the
evaluation of cultural differences towards international
audiences/communities or special localized minorities.
Before considering calling me a "ill-minded" person, you should clearly
focus and backup your attack with at least scientific production work.
If not, I'll brand such as trolling.
-- my personal 2 cents.
>
>
>
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> 1. Marketing flyers (Zoltan Hoppar)
> 2. Re: Marketing flyers (Pierros Papadeas)
> 3. Re: Marketing flyers (Jukka Palander)
> 4. Re: Marketing flyers (wonderer)
> 5. Re: ambassadors Digest, Vol 94, Issue 12 (Nelson Marques)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:52:54 +0200
> From: Zoltan Hoppar <hopparz at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Ambassadors] Marketing flyers
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
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> Hi,
>
> I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer
> about Fedora.
>
> Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable
> format?
>
>
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
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> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:00:05 +0300
> From: Pierros Papadeas <ppapadeas at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Marketing flyers
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
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> 2010/3/28 Zoltan Hoppar <hopparz at gmail.com>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general
> flyer about Fedora.
> >
> > Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable
> format?
> >
> >
> > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
>
> Hi Zoltan!
>
> I made those version independent flyers and you can have them
> in
> editable .odt format from the link on the wiki.
>
> I suggest you update them a little, mainly on two points :
>
> * New mailing list
> * Current "edge" features
>
> Let me know if you need anything more :)
>
> ~?
>
> --
> Pierros Papadeas
> PGP key: 0x6130DBF8
> http://pierros.papadeas.gr
> pierros at papadeas.gr
> liknus @ GRnet , Freenode
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:04:19 +0200
> From: Jukka Palander <jukka at devspain.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Marketing flyers
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Message-ID: <1269785059.2341.8.camel at localhost.localdomain>
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>
> Hi!
>
> Great job. It is important to have those flyers, but I have
> just one
> more thing to put in consideration here.
>
> Why don't we say more clearly that Fedora is alternative to
> Windows or
> Mac OS?
>
> People might get bit confused if we just say it is an
> operating system
> based on Linux. There are a huge group of people out there who
> does not
> understand what is an operating system. They know Windows and
> they may
> know Mac or Linux (as one system), but they are not familiar
> with Fedora
> brand/"trade-mark".
>
> I think we should say more clearly the whole thing. Like:
>
> "Fedora Linux OS" or "Linux Fedora OS".
>
> Also I think we should say everywhere that it is _free_
> alternative to
> Windows and OSX. I think this is the only way to get Fedora
> more known
> within "ordinary" and "non-tech" people.
>
> --
> Jukka
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:52 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general
> flyer about
> > Fedora.
> >
> > Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable
> format?
> >
> >
> > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
> >
> > --
> > PGP: 06853DF7
> > --
> > ambassadors mailing list
> > ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:39:14 +0200
> From: wonderer <wonderer4711 at gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Marketing flyers
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Message-ID: <4BAF6A12.40103 at gmx.de>
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>
> Am 28.03.2010 15:00, schrieb Pierros Papadeas:
> > 2010/3/28 Zoltan Hoppar <hopparz at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general
> flyer about Fedora.
> >>
> >> Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable
> format?
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
> >>
> > Hi Zoltan!
> >
> > I made those version independent flyers and you can have
> them in
> > editable .odt format from the link on the wiki.
> >
> ... and I took the English Version and translated it to german
> and
> pasted it into the wiki.
> I know its maybe a little bit to late for the actual ongoing
> FAD in
> M?nchengladbach, my apologies, but hopefully it can be used on
> some
> upcoming events.
> My only change other then translating it was to change the
> Mailinglist
> URL. Other suggestions are welcome.
>
>
> mit freundlichen Gr??en / best regards
> Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org
>
> PGP/GnuPG: 8237 D432 0616 D567 DBC6 3FE3 0D52 B374 F468 A5F0
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:52:08 +0100
> From: Nelson Marques <07721 at ipam.pt>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] ambassadors Digest, Vol 94, Issue
> 12
> To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Message-ID: <1269787928.2283.0.camel at localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
>
> Thank you for your expertise on this as a former gang member
> and Fedora
> Ambassador.
>
> I rest my case.
>
> nmarques
>
> On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 04:08 -0500, Xavier Naldo wrote:
> > In regards to message 7 and onwards, listen, who cares about
> what the
> > meanings of the page on release notes are. Its jt plain
> marketing and
> > these discussions are too political. There is no way to be
> that
> > neutral and try not to offend everyone. This is an
> international
> > distro and who cares about what the photos mean or words
> mean. it just
> > plain fun to see the advertising page and when I looked at
> it, I dont
> > see anything wrong with it. So please, enough of the
> political
> > interpretations and lets just move forward to the real
> topics at hand,
> > by the way, I was in a gang and none of these things are
> ever remotely
> > associated with O.G., ok? I know what ganstas are so please
> this
> > release page DOES NOT have any associations of it!!
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:37 PM,
> > <ambassadors-request at lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > Send ambassadors mailing list submissions to
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: calling for backup (Pierros Papadeas)
> > 2. Re: calling for backup (Felix Kaechele)
> > 3. REPORT - Open Fest 2010 (Pierros Papadeas)
> > 4. Re: calling for backup (Neville A. Cross)
> > 5. Re: calling for backup (David Nalley)
> > 6. Re: calling for backup (Neville A. Cross)
> > 7. Re: FYI Fedora 12 one page release notes. :)
> (Nelson
> > Marques)
> > 8. Re: FYI Fedora 12 one page release notes. :)
> (Mathieu
> > Bridon)
> > 9. Re: FYI Fedora 12 one page release notes. :)
> (Neville A.
> > Cross)
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:01:40 +0200
> > From: Pierros Papadeas <ppapadeas at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] calling for backup
> > To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >
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> >
> > 2010/3/27 Larry Cafiero <larry.cafiero at gmail.com>:
> > > Max --
> > >
> > > Sounds good to me, and I don't have any amendments
> to make.
> > Let me know if I
> > > can join the rotation.
> > >
> > > Larry Cafiero
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Max Spevack
> > <mspevack at redhat.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Today seems like a good day to write this blog
> > post. ?Interested to hear
> > >> people's feedback.
> > >>
> > >> http://spevack.livejournal.com/103305.html
> > >>
> > >> --Max
> >
> > Max,
> >
> > This sounds like a fun-yet-important thing to do for
> the
> > Fedora Project :)
> > I am interested too in joining the rotation.
> >
> > Possibly we could also divide the
> time-money-responsibilities
> > into the
> > 4 regional FADs and FUDCON leaders. This way we
> could have
> > better
> > results, as one "global guy" cannot "feel" each
> regional
> > community as
> > a "regional guy" could do.
> >
> > Then again the "4-regions" division could be like
> > fragmentation of the
> > global community. How about a guy for NA and LATAM,
> and
> > another guy
> > for EMEA and APAC ?
> > This seems like a nice idea, as NA and LATAM have
> many things
> > in
> > common, just like EMEA and APAC (culture, proximity,
> less
> > travel
> > expenses etc)
> >
> > What do you thing?
> >
> > ~?
> >
> > --
> > Pierros Papadeas
> > PGP key: 0x6130DBF8
> > http://pierros.papadeas.gr
> > pierros at papadeas.gr
> > liknus @ GRnet , Freenode
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:47:26 +0100
> > From: Felix Kaechele <felix at fetzig.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] calling for backup
> > To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Message-ID: <4BADFE5E.8080208 at fetzig.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > I think this is really interesting. I too would like
> to join
> > the rotation :D
> > Maybe it would be good to have two people doing this
> as a
> > team. Ideally
> > they would be in different timezones so just in case
> someone
> > needs some
> > attention by either one of those guys there always
> is at least
> > one guy
> > available to talk to.
> >
> > --Felix
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:20:24 +0200
> > From: Pierros Papadeas <ppapadeas at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Ambassadors] REPORT - Open Fest 2010
> > To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >
> <21461b361003270720j7c4f4845m1c743b7e7acc3e09 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7
> >
> > Hello my fellow Ambassadors!
> >
> > Last weekend we had a nice event here in Athens [1]
> and Fedora
> > was
> > there with a great Booth and many people :)
> >
> > Needless to say, we had the best booth and presence
> as a
> > community
> > there and we attracted many newcomers especially
> with our
> > Translation
> > Marathon for Fedora 13 during the event.
> > On the wiki page [2] you can find some
> blogposts-reports on
> > the event
> > and this [3] nice gallery of photos from our
> presence there.
> >
> > We had a dual-projector setup with many swag (mostly
> produced
> > by us)
> > and some nice little ideas (like "Try me!" signs)
> >
> > Many thanks to all the Greek fellows, that helped
> the Fedora
> > be on its
> > best one more time :)
> >
> > Next target for Fedora Greek Community is FossComm
> 2010 [4]
> > (we
> > started organizing already [5]) which is the biggest
> foss
> > event in
> > Greece and we are more than sure that it's going to
> be a
> > fabulous
> > appearance of Fedora there with many new persons
> helping out.
> >
> > ~?
> >
> > [1] http://openfest.teipir.gr
> > [2]
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenFest_2010
> > [3]
> http://picasaweb.google.com/saliyath/OpenfestAthens2010
> > [4] http://fosscomm.gr
> > [5]
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Fosscomm2010
> >
> > --
> > Pierros Papadeas
> > PGP key: 0x6130DBF8
> > http://pierros.papadeas.gr
> > pierros at papadeas.gr
> > liknus @ GRnet , Freenode
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:49:41 -0400
> > From: "Neville A. Cross" <nacross at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] calling for backup
> > To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >
> <f1706c1e1003270749q78e97befsf0c3fca424bb09d8 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7
> >
> > 2010/3/27 Pierros Papadeas <ppapadeas at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > This sounds like a fun-yet-important thing to do
> for the
> > Fedora Project :)
> > > I am interested too in joining the rotation.
> > >
> > > Possibly we could also divide the
> > time-money-responsibilities into the
> > > 4 regional FADs and FUDCON leaders. This way we
> could have
> > better
> > > results, as one "global guy" cannot "feel" each
> regional
> > community as
> > > a "regional guy" could do.
> > >
> > > Then again the "4-regions" division could be like
> > fragmentation of the
> > > global community. How about a guy for NA and
> LATAM, and
> > another guy
> > > for EMEA and APAC ?
> > > This seems like a nice idea, as NA and LATAM have
> many
> > things in
> > > common, just like EMEA and APAC (culture,
> proximity, less
> > travel
> > > expenses etc)
> > >
> > > What do you thing?
> > >
> > > ~?
> > >
> >
> > I agree with Pierros, fun and important. I have to
> add that
> > it is
> > also a challenging position as may require deal we
> people's
> > passions.
> >
> > I think that up and running may be true about 15
> hours weekly.
> > But to
> > get there will require a lot more hours each week.
> >
> > Probably I will be a good idea to gather some help
> from now
> > until this
> > position it appointed, and I will like to help.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neville
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
> > Linux User # 473217
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:23:46 -0400
> > From: David Nalley <david at gnsa.us>
> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] calling for backup
> > To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Cc: fudcon-planning at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >
> <d6e6dfeb1003270823h197e2726j82ddbed582b5c243 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > on Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Max Spevack
> > <mspevack at redhat.com> wrote:
> > > Today seems like a good day to write this blog
> > post. ?Interested to hear
> > > people's feedback.
> > >
> > > http://spevack.livejournal.com/103305.html
> > >
> > > --Max
> > > --
> > > ambassadors mailing list
> > > ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > >
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
> > >
> >
> >
> > I think this is an outstanding idea. I have one
> comment re
> > the rotating.
> >
> > So from an outsiders perspective, I infer that there
> must a
> > lot of
> > internal wrangling that occurs, especially for the
> larger
> > events such
> > as FUDcon. I suspect that alot of the internal
> wrangling (and
> > I don't
> > mean to make it sound bad, it's just part of the
> process, be
> > that
> > budgetary or whatever else) is the reason that the
> community
> > at large
> > hasn't picked up the responsibility. (And if it
> isn't, and
> > this is
> > something the community should be picking up, please
> correct
> > me, I'd
> > hate to think that we want FUDcons and FADs so bad
> and yet
> > aren't
> > doing the work thats needed if it's something we can
> do). That
> > leads
> > me to believe that this internal wrangling has a
> learning
> > curve that
> > is non-trivial, and that repeating it would be a
> waste of time
> > and
> > resources. If it takes a month to get someone up to
> speed,
> > having to
> > repeat it for each FUDcon sounds likely to be an
> excercise in
> > frustration.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:46:03 -0400
> > From: "Neville A. Cross" <nacross at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] calling for backup
> > To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >
> <f1706c1e1003270946p4f099c25i668b10c5b36d082b at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:23 AM, David Nalley
> <david at gnsa.us>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I think this is an outstanding idea. ?I have one
> comment re
> > the rotating.
> > >
> > > So from an outsiders perspective, I infer that
> there must a
> > lot of
> > > internal wrangling that occurs, especially for the
> larger
> > events such
> > > as FUDcon. I suspect that alot of the internal
> wrangling
> > (and I don't
> > > mean to make it sound bad, it's just part of the
> process, be
> > that
> > > budgetary or whatever else) is the reason that the
> community
> > at large
> > > hasn't picked up the responsibility. (And if it
> isn't, and
> > this is
> > > something the community should be picking up,
> please correct
> > me, I'd
> > > hate to think that we want FUDcons and FADs so bad
> and yet
> > aren't
> > > doing the work thats needed if it's something we
> can do).
> > That leads
> > > me to believe that this internal wrangling has a
> learning
> > curve that
> > > is non-trivial, and that repeating it would be a
> waste of
> > time and
> > > resources. If it takes a month to get someone up
> to speed,
> > having to
> > > repeat it for each FUDcon sounds likely to be an
> excercise
> > in
> > > frustration.
> >
> > I think that the open participation and the aim to
> provide
> > chances to
> > different locations for events are bound to require
> this
> > repeating
> > exercise, frustrating and all... yet another
> characteristic
> > for the
> > person appointed for such task: Patience (lot of
> it!)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neville
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
> > Linux User # 473217
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - -
> > Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - -
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:14:03 +0000
> > From: Nelson Marques <07721 at ipam.pt>
> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FYI Fedora 12 one page
> release
> > notes. :)
> > To: ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Message-ID: <1269710043.2635.1.camel at localhost>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> >
> > It's nicely done, though on "Help make Fedora" I
> strongly
> > disagree with
> > the image presented as it clear shows signs of
> "Ghetto
> > culture". You
> > shouldn't address an international community
> displaying such
> > symbols.
> > Every time that Communication hits International
> Communities
> > or
> > Minorities, it should be reviewed carefully at
> cultural level.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents...
> >
> > nm
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 03:33 -0400, David Ramsey
> wrote:
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > Greetings. :)
> > >
> > > =============================================
> > >
> > > FYI Fedora 12 one page release notes. :)
> > >
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_tour
> > >
> > > Looks very professional and useful. :)
> > >
> > > =============================================
> > >
> > > Sending positive Fedora 12 and Fedora 13 energy
> from my
> > computer to yours. :v)
> > >
> > > Please have a great day and/or evening! :~)
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > > Sincerely
> > > =-=-=-=-=
> > > - David -
> > > =-=-=-=-=
> > > David Ramsey
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > ????
> > > ????????
> > > 10 people 10 colors
> > > Different strokes for different folks
> > > =
> > > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador
> > dramsey at fedoraproject.org
> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey
> > > * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM
> running the
> > Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel -
> 2.6.32.10-88.fc12.i686.PAE
> > > * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM
> running the
> > Fedora 13 (Goddard) kernel -
> 2.6.33.1-19.fc13.i686.PAE
> > > * Two (2) dual core systems with 3.0 GB of RAM
> running the
> > Fedora 13
> > > (Goddard) kernel - 2.6.33-1.fc13.i686.PAE
> > > With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of
> RAM and two
> > SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks.
> > > =
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> > Nelson Marques <07721 at ipam.pt>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:24:15 +0100
> > From: Mathieu Bridon <bochecha at fedoraproject.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FYI Fedora 12 one page
> release
> > notes. :)
> > To: 07721 at ipam.pt,
> ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >
> <2d319b781003271024k362de97cm8f31764ec9b2a9ec at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 18:14, Nelson Marques
> <07721 at ipam.pt>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It's nicely done, though on "Help make Fedora" I
> strongly
> > disagree with
> > > the image presented as it clear shows signs of
> "Ghetto
> > culture".
> >
> > You mean 3 friends being happy to work together is a
> sign of ?
> > ghetto
> > culture ? ?
> >
> > This photo shows nothing more than how great it is
> to be
> > contributing
> > to the Fedora Project, don't try to see anything
> more :)
> >
> >
> > ----------
> > Mathieu Bridon
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:37:55 -0400
> > From: "Neville A. Cross" <nacross at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FYI Fedora 12 one page
> release
> > notes. :)
> > To: 07721 at ipam.pt,
> ambassadors at lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >
> <f1706c1e1003271037j49796f47kba8cc0e6a0b1bc75 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Nelson Marques
> > <07721 at ipam.pt> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's nicely done, though on "Help make Fedora" I
> strongly
> > disagree with
> > > the image presented as it clear shows signs of
> "Ghetto
> > culture". You
> > > shouldn't address an international community
> displaying such
> > symbols.
> > > Every time that Communication hits International
> Communities
> > or
> > > Minorities, it should be reviewed carefully at
> cultural
> > level.
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents...
> > >
> > > nm
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I looked for the wiki and found that at:
> >
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes
> > Can you elaborate? Seriuosly.
> > Because as I am part of the international community,
> I am too
> > far off
> > to identify what you mean by Ghetto Culture in that
> picture. I
> > really
> > don't get your point, and I think is worth
> exploring.
> > For me one thumb up is good. Extending thumb and
> little finger
> > is a
> > surfer sing, people have told me it means a wish for
> good
> > waves to
> > ride on.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > --
> > Neville
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
> > Linux User # 473217
> >
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> - -
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