[Ambassadors] New regional Ambassador Mentors

Bert Desmet bert at devnox.be
Tue Nov 9 10:56:05 UTC 2010

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer
<sspreitzer at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mmoeller/Ambassador_mentoring_proposal
> Perfect! I like this, it takes out the todays chain of command and
> transforms it into a collaborate and have fun thing.
> Thank you Marcus, you have my support.

I'm sorry Sascha, but I can't agree with this.
I've mentored a lot of people before in small ways, without me having
the title. Of course that is possible, if someone has a question on
how do something, or you encourage people to do stuff, go to places,
give him opportunities, ...
this all could be described as a mentor job. But the best mentors are
mentors you "don't see".
For example: Lougaroublond was my mentor. not officially, I just
started to talking to him because I had a question, and he helped me a
lot. And no, he didn't have this title. Also yesterday there was a guy
who was asking what he could do for the fedora project, I showed him
around, explained him what we do, how we do it. I did that because he
asked for help, not because I'm a mentor now, or something else.

Why do I still think the mentor thing is important? Everybody should
get someone that can show them around in the project. and if you are
new to the ambassador project, chances are small that you already know
a lot of people in the ambassador project.

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"The normal way mentors are elected is that they are choosen by FAmSCo
on demand. This leads to the situation that ppl are sometimes told
that there are no more mentors needed in a specific region and a few
weeks/days later someone else is raised for that position."

Marcus, you keep on repeating this point. things do change, and this
is a human system, not a computer system. so there could have been a
small mistake too. combine this 2 things together, and you come to
valid answer for you question. But as Joerg Already pointed out
several times, you don't ask to become a mentor, you become a mentor
because you mentor people, without having the official mentor title +
because they think you are fit for the job. No, it's not a fixed set
of rules, but I don't think there should be. Because sometimes having
a feeling about someone is much more important than a set of rules.


Bert Desmet

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