[Ambassadors] Going passive

[Antonakoglou Konstantinos]

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip at kanarip.com>wrote:

>  On Tuesday, November 09, 2010 02:35:22 pm Adam Miller wrote:
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> > On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 12:20:02PM +0100, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote:
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> > > Dear Fedorians,
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> > >
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> > > as I feel frustration about my work in Fedora and I do not agree with
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> > > todays Fedora governance and ruling system I am hereby taking the
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> > > logical step of stopping all my active contributions to this project.
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> > > One major point is that I feel exploited by RedHats installation of
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> > > the Fedora Project and I do not feel it is ok to contribute for a
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> > > companys benefit that is not equal to its project investment.
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> > >
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> > > Thats why I am saying goodbye, with the following sentence;
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> > > "Microsoft is the evil we know. Novell and Oracle is the evil we got
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> > > to know and Canonical and RedHat is the evil we will get to know."
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> >
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> > While I respect your wishes and desires to move on in life, I have to
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> > object to your statements about "Red Hat's installation of the Fedora
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> > Project and I do not feel it is ok to contribute for a companys benefit
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> > that is not equal to its project investment."
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> >
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> > Red Hat employs many Fedora contributors in order to contribute
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> > specifically to Fedora and that should be encouraged, not scoffed at. Red
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> > Hat also funds almost 100% of the infrastructure that allows those of us
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> > who contribute to contribute as well as their funding for all the
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> > ambassador efforts and many many other bits throughout the Fedora scape.
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> >
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> > I think the qualms that Red Hat is getting "something for nothing" isn't
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> > accurate of Red Hat but is in fact true of many companies that use open
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> > source in any way/shape/form for profit, but the difference is that Red
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> > Hat actually takes action and contributes back to the open source
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> > community in both code and content contribution as well as monetary
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> > funding, and for that reason I am happy to stand by their efforts and
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> > defend their name as an outsider of their organization and as a Fedora
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> > contributor.
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> >
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> I bet you can estimate how many holes I can make in your line of reasoning,
> and for the sake of argument, I won't. However, based on many, many
> incidents that -each by themselves- mean absolutely nothing, or may not seem
> to have all that much consequence, but together do indicate a larger
> problem, you can see where a certain perspective just doesn't meet another
> perspective. Once you realize that, more things become clearly visible.
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> Kind regards,
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> Jeroen
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+1 for Jeroen

Dear Sascha,

It's obvious that if you really believe what you say, this [1] (a big hole
in the line of reasoning), will ruin the open source world you say we can/do
live in. It's the kernel. What next, quit Linux? Of course not! :)

Anyway, I don't believe that you really believe what you say. But I know you
understand your sayings. I hope you reconsider how you face the particular
problem(s) that has/have occurred to you. I think the Fedora community has
shown that correct statement of thoughts is always welcome and valuable.

[1] http://lwn.net/Articles/395961/

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Konstantinos Antonakoglou
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