[Ambassadors] How to be a Mentor?

[Viji V Nair]

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Onyeibo Oku <twohotis at fastmail.fm> wrote:
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> On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:05 +0530, "Viji V Nair" <viji at fedoraproject.org>
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>> Agreed, those are not directly related to fedora. Please understand
>> that most of the people using fedora runs "many community stuff" on
>> top of it, not only fedora shipped packages. I know many organizations
>> chose ubuntu because they ships may apps which fedora does not, eg
>> Eucalyptus.
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>> I am here trying to promote fedora with some additional community
>> stuff, like PVFS2, reiser4 etc. We are all here to promote FOSS and
>> Fedora, I believe.
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> In a community driven project/product like Fedora, the general interest
> or collective voice of the community supersedes any individual member's
> standpoint. The community has agreed, in principle, to follow
> established streamlined routes towards realizing their various
> objectives. If I recall correctly, there is a process for determining
> features that will be included & supported per release.  Its only proper
> for you to push for the inclusion reiser4 support (and others) in the
> release and follow up that processes (that is, if reiser4 etc. are not
> propriety software or license encumbered).
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> That way, you are directly contributing to the project (hence, it
> becomes official). Its possible to maintain your packages off fedora as
> an extension of service to others outside the community while observing
> fedora community ethics.  That is how to serve FOSS community and be
> RIGHT!  However, there is no guarantee that your advocacy will always
> win ... remember, its a community.  You suggest it, its deliberated on,
> its accepted, ... ITS IN!  Anything else, translates to SOLO work and
> fedora project doesn't run that way
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> Be reminded that fedora project is pro freedom! Anything code/software
> that is not pure FLOSS/Libre is OUT!  Its also unethical to have a link
> to such products from within the fedora website.

I wont agree, you are not getting my point properly. I took the
reiser4 just as example. If fedora is freedom, we should have the
mentality to accept the community stuff built around it. I am not
asking to include in the main repository, at least don't ignore the
people who does these kind of work and choosing fedora as a platform
by simply saying "you are not official"

I know that I can push it to rpmfusion, even reiser4 will be in
upstream kernel from first quarter of next year (if everything goes
fine). It is not only about the file system like this but also with
the many community project which fedora is not shipping.

As you said it is a "community" stuff and a collective voice of the
community. But dont ignore the people who are trying to something, in
India please see how many events related to fedora is happening every
year.

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