[Ambassadors] registering your nick to get into #fedora
threethirty
three at threethirty.us
Tue Sep 14 14:21:08 UTC 2010
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 09:54 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 02:29:13AM +0100, Tristan Santore wrote:
> > On 13/09/10 23:44, Juan M. Rodriguez wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > 2010/9/13 Larry Cafiero <larry.cafiero at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:larry.cafiero at gmail.com>>
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:12 PM, threethirty <three at threethirty.us
> > > <mailto:three at threethirty.us>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > <rant>
> > > We should be actively taking down barriers to joining this
> > > community not
> > > erecting them.
> > > </rant>
> > >
> > >
> > > And how, exactly, is the painfully simple act of registering an IRC
> > > nickname, taking all of a grand total of 30 seconds (if you type
> > > slowly) as described in a prior e-mail, a barrier?
> > >
> > > Get real, Justin. This is no more a barrier than signing the FAS; in
> > > fact, it's probably less of one.
> > >
> > > Further, there's a reason that unregistered nicks do not get into
> > > #fedora, but I don't know what it is exactly. Does anyone have any
> > > background on this?
> > >
> > > Larry Cafiero
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > The reason a lot of channels started the registration barrier is to stop
> > > the number of spambots that suddenly arose on Freenode. Registered spam
> > > bots are easier to mute or ban :)
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if spam is still an issue in Freenode, I haven't seen one
> > > in months.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno
> > > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos
> > > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > Also, Freenode's registration process has nothing to do with the Fedora
> > project, Red Hat or any other FOSS project on freenode. It is up to the
> > freenode board. Further, I think the registration process keeps a lot of
> > issues at bay, so as the requirement in the Fedora Project channels, to
> > be registered.
> >
> > I have a suggestion to make though. If you believe it is hard for users
> > to join/register for freenode, why don't you make a few new wiki pages,
> > with GUI screen shots, to help new users ? IMHO that would be a better
> > approach to take, we could then link them from the get-help pages.
>
> The get-help page is here:
> http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help
>
> It actually contains a text paragraph on how to connect to IRC, but
> really that ought to be a link out to a wiki page that people can
> maintain more easily. That wiki page is probably here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo
>
> It could use some updating, and it should stay oriented on a GUI
> program, which tends to be easier for new users. I like irssi too but
> I wouldn't send a first-timer to it.
>
> So the steps to fix this issue would be:
>
> * Update the wiki page
> * Ask the websites team if they'll accept a patch for that section on
> the get-help page, and why
> * Use the instructions here to send a correction to the websites team:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_fix_bugs_on_the_Fedora_Project_website
>
> Justin, interested in working on this?
>
I can have a go at it.
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