[Ambassadors] Survey: Red Hat Certifications/Training for FAms (Just 2 or 3 minutes required)

Danishka Navin danishka at gmail.com
Thu Dec 29 03:32:59 UTC 2011

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Tristan Santore <
tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net> wrote:

> On 28/12/11 22:28, Uditha Bandara Wijerathna wrote:
> >
> >     While those who know me know that I think very highly of Red Hat
> >     certifications and have been privileged to benefit from them
> >     personally, I don't see any reason this should be something for
> >     ambassadors specifically. The value of the certification has little
> to
> >     do with performing ambassador duties or with being qualified to be a
> >     good ambassador for Fedora.
> >
> >     I can more easily support an initiative to help all Fedora
> >     contributors who are interested in acquiring certifications do so. I
> >     don't think FAmSCo is the best vehicle for that and I don't think it
> >     really falls under the FAmSCo mission.
> >
> >     Can we discuss here what you would like FAmSCo or anyone else to
> >     provide in terms of support?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Actually, this was just an idea that came from our ambassadors. Not just
> > me. We were discussed about this in a  APAC ambassador regional meeting.
> > FYI meeting log[1] is pasted below (please refer the topicRed Hat
> > information training for Ambassadors (dramsey)). The thing is, RH
> > certification is just a part of this survey. We don't want to mix-up RH
> > with fedora here. I think this is a misunderstanding about two separate
> > topics. Only thing is both were came in a single survey. The solely
> > effort behind this action is to make ambassadors more equipped in
> > technical knowledge in Linux. Because every one not the same in
> > technical knowledge. Also Classrooms can be taken as part of that
> > effort. If there is a firm understanding about the thingsthat people
> > looking forward to learn, even classrooms can be conducted more
> > dynamically. So for a better clarification, it is good to have a
> > discussion with our fellow ambassadors who were in that meeting I
> > mentioned above.
> >
> > [1]:
> >
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-11-26/apac.2011-11-26-03.58.log.html
> >
> > Regards!
> > --
> >
> > - Uditha Bandara Wijerathna -
> > - Fedora Project Ambassador for Sri Lanka -
> > IRC: udinnet  |  Fedora Profile
> > <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Udinnet>  |  Email:
> > udinnet at fedoraproject.org <mailto:udinnet at fedoraproject.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> If you guys want training of sorts, how about volunteering some time to
> make some training docs for fedora, and then maybe even a self-test
> website, which then could be open to any person, be ambassador or not.
> I am sure this would be very welcomed by many of our Fedora contributors
> and even people, who are not contributing as of yet.
> There could also be the added benefit that people would maybe feel more
> comfortable contributing, if they have proven to have a certain
> knowledge level, although exams tend not to reflect an adequate
> knowledge and experience level. However, this could be a starting point
> for old time contributors and new contributors, as long as the topics
> are kept separate, so that people can pick their interests.
> It should be said though, that Fedora is moving in a different direction
> than the recent RHEL 6 version, so one cannot really have anything to do
> with the other, unless it is basic terminal usage.
> Regards,
> Tristan
> --
> Tristan Santore BSc MBCS
> TS4523-RIPE
> Network and Infrastructure Operations
> InterNexusConnect
> Mobile +44-78-55069812
> Tristan.Santore at internexusconnect.net

"desire to learn Fedora and get certified from RH."

There are thousands of people using Fedora without following Red Hat
programs. And most of them working with this community but end users. They
read manuals and follow user forums.

for those who need the certification from RH, they should manage it alone.
I have been working in Fedora community for more than 6 years and there is
no such requirement of learning RHEL or/and get certified from the Red Hat
to promote Fedora within my region.

But you must learn about Fedora and its culture.

FAMs is just a part of Fedora community and there are several groups
working for the Fedora project.

What is the return to Fedora or/and Red Hat by sponsoring an Ambassador to
get RH certification?
The objective of the RH certification is not to build Fedora ambassadors.
It is about managing RHEL servers in enterprise environment. :)

Do you need RHEL knowledge to spread the word about Fedora?
Do you want to certify as RHCSA/RHCE to organize an event, to speak, to
write an article, or code?
To approach outside world you need a PR training, and if you want to code
just learn programming but not RHEL. ;-)

So, You should learn about RHEL your own. If you need an qualification for
your job just go and certify yourself.

As I remember RHCE required more than 200USD only for trainings this is
good enough to manage a local Fedora event.
Do we need to invest on single person for useless work? or Do we need to
spend money on marketing Fedora?

If we start this we could find instant FAMs in the future. As many people
will join just because of the certification and they will leave the project
once they achieved their personal target.

Small issue with the survey; why did you guys put Red Hat logo?

Danishka Navin
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