[Ambassadors] Ambassador Group Role for 2011 - was [FAmSCo] almost done with current year's budget

Caius 'kaio' Chance kaio at fedoraproject.org
Sat Feb 12 05:03:09 UTC 2011

I also agree with Neville and Larry. IMHO why don't we accept someone to
express their loves of Fedora before he/she has contributed to any other
Fedora sub-projects? There are many Fedora users (or even non users) are
happy to Fedora and want to spread the word. e.g. I have a 14 years young
Fedora ambassador candidate, who does not even own his computer and all he
can play with Fedora is to create a virtual machine on his father's laptop.
Should we keep him out of the fun Fedora had been giving him and reject his
help for telling everyone he meets how good Fedora is?

Let ambassadors remain as the guide of Fedora. Experienced ambassadors can
assist the new ambassadors better skills in promoting Fedora and encourage
them to contribute other parts of it, but not require them. No rules may be
needed because we have mentors and experienced ambassadors already. We
documents guidelines, not rules. Remember the "freedom" in our 4Fs.


2011/2/12 Larry Cafiero <larry.cafiero at gmail.com>

> I agree with Neville here, and for the same reasons. I, too, am not (much
> of) a programmer -- but I'm working on it -- and my skills around media, as
> in "news media," make being an Ambassador (and working in Marketing, which I
> don't do enough of, I confess) the best fit for me. And I think it's a good
> practice for Ambassadors and Mentors -- especially Mentors -- to guide those
> who may have a special talent or interest to match the Ambassador with the
> department in Fedora that best suits him or her.
> One thing that hasn't been discussed -- or I missed it -- is that many
> people who want to participate in Fedora and don' t know where to start
> usually start in Ambassadors and make their way to QA or other departments
> on the programming/engineering side because they do have the skill set.
> While we end up "losing" them in Ambassadors, they usually find a home in
> some other part of Fedora, and that's a win for us.
> Larry Cafiero
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Neville A. Cross <neville at taygon.com>wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 11:21 -0800, Jesús Franco wrote:
>> <snip>
>> > IMHO, every Ambassador should be first at all, contributor in another
>> > Fedora project.
>> >
>> <snip>
>> I fully understand why may be useful for an ambassador to start
>> somewhere else as fedora contributor and later become ambassador. There
>> are several reason for that I agree with the statement. What I like to
>> sugest is not make it a rule. My only reason for saying so, it because
>> otherwise I wouldn't be here. I am not a programer, I am not a designer,
>> and I wanted to spread Fedora so I joined Ambassadors. I am not ashamed
>> of my starts on the project just as a "talk-giver" and event organizer.
>> It is a difficult balance to keep easy to get onboard of the project and
>> still keep up quality. I adhere to this as a guideline, but as a rules
>> is a bit too hard.
>> I feel that my role as ambassador is to direct people to contribute with
>> fedora where their talents may be more useful. What sometime is not as
>> easy, as people some times want to do things that are not their best.
>> (Let's hope is because of the learning experience and not because of
>> sturburness). Ambassador role is about undersatnding the project as a
>> whole, and about soft skills dealing with people.  You may gain some
>> insight on the project joining one team, but that will be not enough. It
>> is a ongoing task for every day.
>> So, let's help people to help us. Let's direct people to different parts
>> of the project. But please don't discard people that may be useful on
>> ambassador team just because they haven't been able to engage in other
>> tasks.
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