[Ambassadors] EMEA F17 media production

Kévin Raymond shaiton at fedoraproject.org
Fri Mar 30 15:17:30 UTC 2012


On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Christoph Wickert
<christoph.wickert at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 30.03.2012, 16:46 +0200 schrieb Kévin Raymond:
>>
>> I completly agree that it is a reall gain for us (EMEA) to work with
>> Brno for media production.
>
> +1
>
>> We would have quotes for
>> * 2000 Multi Desktop DL, 1000 Installer 32, 1000 Installer 64
>> * 3000 Multi Desktop DL, 1000 Installer 32, 1000 Installer 64
>
> Why no DL installers?

I just snipped them because there were not revelant here. But you're
right, I should have written that.

>
>> Jiri, could you then please tell us the unit price difference for the
>> Multi Desktop DL?
>
> Again, it is not the unit price that matters but the unit price depends
> on the quantity rather then the DVD itself.

Sure, that's why I've asked the above.

>
>> I could come up with a quote for 1000 Multi Desktop DL, if it's
>> basically the same price, we could think about a small (1000)
>> production here in France, therefore we would be able to ship some for
>> the Release Parties with a short deadline. Of course, it would work
>> only if we could have them before yours.
>
> I have worked on media production for quite a while now (since F13) and
> I can only warn you. It's not so much the actual production or the
> shipping, in fact shipping with FedEx from Brno was the fastet thing we
> ever had I think.
>
> The major problems are the graphics. All vendors have slightly different
> sizes and use different tools. Over time you will know all these tiny
> differences, but when you work with a vendor for the first time, you
> will face problems which result in delay.
>
> Therefor I doubt that there is any benefit in producing an additinal
> batch in France. I don't think it will be any faster but it will require
> more work because you and Jiri would be doing the same work and have the
> same conversations - but with two different companies. We will require
> more work from the design team. And we cannot be sure that both vendors
> produce the same quality.

Since Fedora 10 we had already produced French media I think. We have
only requested few times to EMEA (3 times If I recall well), as we
have add some founds from Red Hat at a certain time.

And we have changed at least two times our vendor.
For us it's easy, we don't have so much work to do, they are able to
deal with basic graphics from the design team, and they are producing
1000 media in a week.

>
> Last but not least I don't think that the French community should be
> treated different form the rest of Europe.

Nether am I, or I would not read this list or attend meetings ;)
But who else are trying to improve things here?
You have tried with the German companies, who are more expensive.
Jiri (and probably others) also.
And I. I insist cause I know that the prices are not so expensives.


> Don't get me wrong: You can give it a try and ask for a quote, but I
> wouldn't do it.

I will, it's only matter of an email.

> Kind regards,
> Christoph
>



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