[Ambassadors] [FAmSCo] Make Mentors Sponsors?

Paul Mellors prjmellors at gmail.com
Wed Aug 21 07:01:18 UTC 2013


I like that idea too Scott....


On 21 August 2013 07:49, Scott Williams <vwfoxguru at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 07/09/2013 05:37 AM, Robert Mayr wrote:
>
>> 2013/7/9 Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert at gmail.com>:
>> [snip]
>>
>>  Am Dienstag, den 09.07.2013, 11:02 +0200 schrieb Joerg Simon:
>>>
>>>> crossposted also to the famsco list as a heads up
>>>>
>>>> i want to put the current Ambassador mentoring and membership process up
>>>> to dicussion - if i see the solid base of mentors we have today, we
>>>> should consider to give the mentors sponsorship rights.
>>>>
>>> [snip]
>>
>>> With the current process the *last step* of a mentor is, that he gives
>>>> his *thumbs up in the tickets system* . After that, the FAmA sponsors
>>>> the candidate in FAS and closes the ticket. I think we should give the
>>>> Mentors who are doing the hard mentoring work, the recognition to
>>>> sponsor their own candidates.
>>>>
>>> I totally agree, there are a lot of good reasons. Let me summarize and
>>> add a few new ones:
>>>        * We should share the workload.
>>>        * We should not have a single point of failure.
>>>        * The mentors do all the work of the sponsoring process, in return
>>>          they should be rewarded with more recognition and
>>>          responsibility.
>>>        * Sponsoring somebody and closing his ticket is just a few clicks.
>>>          No big deal for a mentor, but it can become a lot of work for a
>>>          single person.
>>>        * As the mentors are filing the tickets, they should also close
>>>          them.
>>>        * The process would be consistent with all the other groups where
>>>          sponsors == mentors.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>> [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fama/
>>>
>> I agree with all the points Christoph said and indeed it's a question
>> new candidates sometimes ask: why, when candidates finish mentoring
>> with a "thumbs up", they aren't sponsored immediately?
>>  From the 1st of June we also changed a lot of the mentoring process,
>> giving more responsibility to the single mentor and letting him
>> administrate the ticket process from the creation to the "thumbs up"
>> state. Sponsoring his candidate definitely, after having spent often a
>> lot of time with the new ambassador, would be grateful for the mentor
>> on one side, and would be the logical end of the mentoring process for
>> the candidate on the other side.
>>
>> Therefore I would totally agree with Jörg's proposal.
>> Greetings.
>>
>>  As a mentor, just thought I'd give my $.02 and say that being able to
> sponsor in Trac would be a helpful bonus.  That way we can tell the mentee
> that they're in when they're ready instead of explaining the last bit of
> red tape, which less face it, has been largely ceremonial.
>
> Scott
>
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