[Ambassadors] Community Credit Card Stats 2012 and some thoughts ; )

Jiri Eischmann eischmann at redhat.com
Wed Jan 2 17:45:40 UTC 2013

Christoph Wickert píše v St 02. 01. 2013 v 18:32 +0100:
> Am Mittwoch, den 02.01.2013, 16:43 +0100 schrieb Joerg Simon:
> > posted some thoughts on statistics and some budget stats - maybe it
> > helps the budget planing
> > 
> > http://kitall.blogspot.de/2013/01/fedora-community-credit-card-2012.html
> Hi Jörg,
> thanks for digging into the numbers and creating these statistics. I
> agree they are very valuable. 
> Let me comment one some things you raised in your blog post:
> The problem with the FAmSCo reports was that cost is too much time to
> produce them. We didn't discontinue them because we don't think they
> were not important any longer, but simply because it was too much work,
> especially when they were done monthly. If there is a way to produce
> them easily and it this process is documented, we could think about
> bringing them back.
> Even if we don't, we should have an annual report. I don't care how it's
> done, but we need to have some numbers and some kind of retrospective:
> What has changed in the last year? What have we achieved and where did
> we fail? I think this is the most important question.
> You say you don't see our community develop. I don't think this is true,
> I think we need look more carefully. The total number of ambassadors or
> the number of new applications are just two indicators. There are many
> more: The number of regional meetings held, the number of FAmSCo
> meetings, the attendance in these meetings, attendance at events, and
> many more I forget at the moment. And looking at these numbers, the
> situation is different: We had more regional meetings and more FAmSCo
> meetings than ever before and we had more people attending (details to
> come).
> Then there is another important number: Money. You are pointing out that
> in the 7 of 2011, community credit card have spend more money for than
> in the complete fiscal year 2012. This is basically the aftermath of Max
> leaving which caused a lot of trouble. Short version is: There was a
> transition of the budget to another person. This person had problems
> with the book keeping and FAmSCo had no idea how much money was spent.
> At some point, we were told that we had no money left (or only $5000 for
> the rest of the year) and therefor we dramatically had to cut the
> expenses.
> This turned out to not me true. In fact we had a lot of money left but
> did not spend it. As a result, the budget for 2012 was lower. Then there
> was the transition from Red Hat's Community Architecture team to the new
> Open Source and Standards group, which also caused delay and confusion.
> But I think we've cleared it up, at least from the FAmSCo side.

And this is the main reason for the budget planning effort because it's
much better if you have a clear idea how much you can spend.

> What do we learn from this?
>       * The community needs more power. Having too much power in the
>         hands of a single person can become a problem when this person
>         disappears. We should distribute power and workload on more
>         shoulders.
>       * We need better controlling. We need to track our expenses.
>         Ideally,  FAmSCo should be in the position to figure out how
>         much was spent without having to ask somebody.
> Jörg, your statics are a good start and will help us a lot to achieve
> this. Thanks a lot for your work!

I also thank Jörg for a great report. Hopefully, we'll make a good job
in budget planning for FY2014 and next year we can combine these figures
of actual expenses with planned expenses and it will be even more
interesting and helpful.


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