[Ambassadors] Discussion: revoking ambassador status

Robert Mayr robyduck at fedoraproject.org
Thu Feb 27 20:04:49 UTC 2014


Il 27/feb/2014 19:11 "Tristan Santore" <
tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net> ha scritto:
>
> If you complain about a volunteer, which is what being a Fedora
Ambassador is
> , that he/she is not doing enough, when they have their Thesis to write,
because that is what will feed them for the rest of their lives, allowing
them to be a Fedora Ambassador in the first place, nevermind the fact that
you are being not only unethical, but also beyond the acceptable conduct as
an ambassador, then I think you are being an imbecile. Also, as imbecile is
not a swear word, I do not understand how you could be offended by that
statement, unless of course you were the person having a moan at the
individual involved.
>
> Also,I have proposed a solution, see my last email. There clearly is an
issue in Brazil, which might also relate to other countries.
>
> We do have a motto in Fedora. Freedom, Friends, Features, First.
>
> Now, in my book, if you manage to annoy people that much, that they
become inactive, or you hassle them to be more active, then you are
violating two of our core principals, namely Freedom and Friends.
>
> So, I will repeat! We need to substantiate why people have become
inactive amongst the Fedora Ambassador Programme. So, contact those people
in a friendly manner, asking them if they would mind participating in an
anonymous survey, as to why they are no longer active in the ambassadors
group. I suggest a Fedora Election based system, with a questionnaire. This
will not only save the Mentors and FAMSCO people from having to deal with
100s of cases of inactive members, but would also get to the bottom of the
issue.
>
> Using pesticide on a field that has no pests, is a bit silly. So, find
out what is wrong. If 35 out of 50 people become inactive and the remainder
becomes disgruntled, there clearly is an issue there. And I am not only
talking about the people being inactive here! Why anyone would take all of
this as serious as that, is quite frankly beyond me, but also might explain
why the other 35 are inactive in the first place (just a thought).
>
> In other words, without quantification and qualification of the perceived
issues, we will never know in the first place! So make a survey! How else
are you going to make the ambassadors programme better ?
>
> Appeasing the few and disgruntling the many is not a good method in
increasing Fedora Contributor numbers.
>
> I think Pierre makes a valid point, when he mentions different cultural
backgrounds. So, maybe it should be made clear that people should not take
this that serious and have FUN (remember now: Freedom and Friends)! You can
have plenty of aggro doing your day job or stress from your education. Not
many people will be turned on by hassle coming from their leisurely
activities.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tristan

Ok so you think I'm the imbecile and probably also unethical and beyond the
conduct of an ambassador.
I don't have nothing against anyone, I accept different opinions if they
are kept within the verbal limits.
You mentioned our 4 foundations, and that is why I'm here, but I don't
acccept being offended by anyone.

Robert Mayr
(robyduck)
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