Fedora Weekly News 204
pcalarco at nd.edu
Mon Nov 30 21:33:16 UTC 2009
o 1.1 Announcements
+ 1.1.1 More Fedora 12 Reviews
+ 1.1.2 FEDORA ANNOUNCE LIST
# 126.96.36.199 Fedora Project Election Town Halls
+ 1.1.3 FEDORA EVENTS
# 188.8.131.52 Upcoming Events
# 184.108.40.206 Past Events
o 1.2 Planet Fedora
+ 1.2.1 General
o 1.3 Quality Assurance
+ 1.3.1 Test Days
+ 1.3.2 Weekly meetings
+ 1.3.3 Increasing the grub timeout
+ 1.3.4 Fedora 12 QA retrospective
o 1.4 Ambassadors
+ 1.4.1 Fedora at NYSCATE
+ 1.4.2 Fedora 12 is here
o 1.5 Translation
+ 1.5.1 Fedora 12 Translation Schedule Tasks
+ 1.5.2 Accessibility Guide
+ 1.5.3 New Members
o 1.6 Artwork
+ 1.6.1 Interaction Design Hackfest
+ 1.6.2 Game Screenshots Ready. Better Navigation Next
o 1.7 Security Advisories
+ 1.7.1 Fedora 12 Security Advisories
+ 1.7.2 Fedora 11 Security Advisories
+ 1.7.3 Fedora 10 Security Advisories
- Fedora Weekly News Issue 204 -
Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 204 for the week ending November
29, 2009. What follows are some highlights from this issue.
We start this week's issue off with a couple additional Fedora 12
reviews to highlight, and also lots of Fedora Project Election
information to inform and engage the user community! In news from the
Fedora Planet this week, comparing the Nokia Maemo and Google Android
platforms, thoughts on sustainable open source engineering, and a review
of the 0.4 Eclipse Linux Tools. In the Quality Assurance beat, much
detail on this past week's QA team activities, and an interesting Fedora
12 QA retrospective. Ambassadors news this week gives us an event report
from the recent New York State Association for Technology and Computers
in Education meeting. In Translation happenings, 0-day Fedora 12
translation polishing, and new members to the Fedora Localization
Project for Italian, Sinhala and German. The Art/Design beat shows off
discussion on an interactive design hackfest and wrapup of screenshots
for a Fedora Game Spin. This issue wraps up with security patches
released last week for Fedora 10, 11 and 12. Please enjoy FWN 204!
If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see
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FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson
-- Announcements --
In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project,
including general announcements, development announcements and
Contributing Writer: Pascal Calarco
--- More Fedora 12 Reviews ---
Last week, we highlighted several Fedora 12 reviews from around the
globe. Here are a few more than came in over the past week:
* Distrowatch, "First look at Fedora 12" 
* Linux Planet "Fedora 12 pushes bleeding edge of Linux networking"
--- FEDORA ANNOUNCE LIST ---
---- Fedora Project Election Town Halls ----
There are a number of high-profile and important elections for the
Fedora Project leadership in process right now, and there's lots on the
wiki to inform the user community on the candidates. See the linked
page for a log of town hall discussions, and upcoming town halls
through December 3rd! Who can vote? Check out the Fedora Elections Guide!
--- FEDORA EVENTS ---
Fedora events are the source of marketing, learning and meeting all the
fellow community people around you. So, please mark your agenda with the
following events to consider attending or volunteering near you!
---- Upcoming Events ----
* North America (NA)
* Central & South America (LATAM) 
* Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA)
* India, Asia, Australia (India/APJ)
---- Past Events ----
Archive of Past Fedora Events
-- Planet Fedora --
In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an
aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide.
Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin
--- General ---
Gerard Braad installed the Maemo 5 SDK on Fedora 12. However, there
were a few minor quirks with the installation process to be aware of.
Steven Moix compared the Maemo platform (Nokia N900) with Android (Hero).
Richard W.M. Jones decided to take a look into the Fedora and Ubuntu
Live CDs to see if it was possible "to quickly create a Fedora or Ubuntu
“all-defaults” virtual machine." Part 2 continues with some
optimization that drastically reduce the time taken to install (one 16
minutes operation in particular ends up taking 2 1/2 minutes after
Andrew Overholt announced release 0.4.0 of the Eclipse Linux Tools,
complete with SystemTap call graphs, GProf integration and better
John Palmier explained "why do we care about push messaging"? (in the
form of a comic strip). This is all in preparation for a presentation on
AMQP and qpid for the upcoming FUDCon.
Karsten Wade discussed "building a business around sustainable open
source engineering". Karsten wanted to "lay out a definition for
sustainable open source engineering, provide some examples you may not
have thought of, and find out who else is doing a good job at it (or
trying to, at the very least!)"
Mike McGrath says: "I'm happy to announce today we finally have
context based sponsorship listings. What does this mean? Well, when you
go to http://fedoraproject.org/ you end up hitting one of several
reverse proxy servers. These hosts are located all over the world by
different hosting providers."
Pavol Rusnak took a look at community engagement in the OpenSUSE and
Fedora communities. Many pie graphs ensued.
Ray Strode talked about the point in the bootup process where it
transitions from Plymouth to X. "f you haven’t seen it, when boot up
finishes, plymouth settles down the boot splash to a transitionable
animation frame, then the mouse pointer shows up, and GDM’s background
cross fades in while the login window maps and expands to show
frequently logged in users. In the best case, this transition all
happens without any flicker, resolution changes, black intermediate
screens, or console text showing up."
-- Quality Assurance --
In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team.
Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson
--- Test Days ---
There was no Test Day last week, and no Test Day is currently planned
for this week. If you would like to propose a main track Test Day for
the Fedora 13 cycle, please contact the QA team via email or IRC, or
file a ticket in QA Trac.
--- Weekly meetings ---
The QA group weekly meeting was held on 2009-11-23. The full log is
available. James Laska noted that a common bugs page entry had been
added to cover the known issue with preupgrade and free space in the
/boot partition, and Rui He had been working to update the preupgrade
test cases to catch similar problems in future.
James Laska admitted that he had not yet sent out the request for
feedback for the Fedora 12 QA retrospective, but promised to do it soon.
John Poelstra asked whether the group would be interested in a
project-wide retrospective at the upcoming FUDCon; James offered to
discuss the idea with John after the meeting.
The group discussed the question of privilege escalation testing,
following the PackageKit installation permission controversy. James
Laska wanted to discuss the plan Tom 'spot' Callaway had proposed via a
blog post and create a test plan based around it. Adam Williamson
felt it was too early to begin planning testing, since Tom's blog post
was only a proposal, and there was no official policy or guideline for
privilege escalation issues on which a test plan could be based. Adam
was also worried about defining the scope of testing, as checking every
package in the distribution would be impractical given the size of the
QA team. The group agreed that for any useful testing to be done, two
things would be needed: a project-wide policy or set of policies and
guidelines, and a tool for generating a list of packages which are
capable of privilege escalation. Adam agreed to start a discussion of
this on the development and security mailing lists. Will Woods offered
to work on the tool for identifying escalation-capable packages.
James Laska brought up John Poelstra's plan to improve the release
criteria, and asked the group to provide feedback. John noted that he
was hoping people could get together to work on finalizing the new
criteria at FUDCon.
Will Woods and Kamil Paral reported on the progress of the AutoQA
project. Will had completed the redesign of the autoqa code to be based
around a Python shared library containing functions commonly used in
multiple watchers and tests. The new post-koji-build test hook is also
included, and autoqa is currently running an rpmlint test on every Koji
build to test the hook. He said the next objective was to solidify the
post-koji-build hook, help package maintainers add post-build tests, and
get the rpmguard test running. A later objective is to work on a
post-bodhi-update hook and dependency check test so that all updates
submitted to Bodhi will be checked for dependency consistency, to
hopefully end the situation where updates are pushed which break
dependency chains. Kamil had been working on the Wiki documentation, and
had created a new front page which briefly explains the project and
contains links to the most important relevant pages. He also pointed out
that James Laska had been drafting further improvements to this page.
Jesse Keating proposed a talk during FUDCon to explain how several new
ideas across the release engineering and QA groups - no frozen rawhide,
autoqa, autosigning, and new milestones - would fit together in upcoming
Fedora release cycles. The group thought this was a good idea, and Jesse
said he would take the lead in arranging it.
The Bugzappers group weekly meeting was held on 2009-11-24. The full
log is available. The group discussed housekeeping tasks,
particularly updating the components and triagers page. Adam
Williamson thought the list of triagers should be kept (rather than
being emptied as was previously the case with each new release) but
pruned, with triagers known to be inactive being removed. Edward Kirk
volunteered to look into a method for updating the component list, based
on the current critical path package list.
The group then discussed the topic of mentoring new members, with Edward
Kirk encouraging experienced group members to help mentor new ones to
make sure they got a good start on their triaging careers. He also
thought it would be good for existing members to join in welcoming new
members to the group when they posted their introduction emails. Adam
Williamson suggested doing this via private mail to avoid cluttering up
Matej Cepl brought up a problem related to the recently-implemented
change in the method of marking bugs that had been triaged. He had found
that the fact that this was now being done differently for different
releases made it impossible to construct a Bugzilla search for all
triaged or un-triaged bugs in a given component across all releases. To
address this problem, he proposed adding the new Triaged keyword to all
bugs in ASSIGNED state for existing supported releases (Fedora 10
through 12), which would allow searches to be performed using the
keyword in all releases. The group could see no problems with this idea,
as long as it was done without generating a large amount of email, and
approved the plan for Matej to approach the Bugzilla maintainer for help
in implementing it.
Matej Cepl pointed out that the level of duplicate bugs being filed via
the abrt automated bug reporting tool was increasing the triage
workload on some components significantly. After a long discussion, the
group agreed a plan to try and address this. Will Woods would talk to
the abrt team about the idea of reporting issues to an intermediate,
abrt-specific server rather than directly to Bugzilla, based on the
kerneloops.org model. Matej would talk to the abrt team about their
plans to improve abrt's own automatic duplicate detection and about
having abrt format its reports in ways that would aid triagers in manual
duplicate detection. Adam Williamson would respond to the existing
thread on the development mailing list about the problem to raise the
group's concerns, and ask the abrt team whether future improvements to
abrt's duplicate detection logic could be retrospectively applied to
bugs already filed by older versions of abrt.
The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-11-30 at 1600 UTC in
#fedora-meeting, and the next Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-12-01 at
1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
--- Increasing the grub timeout ---
Scott Robbins started a long thread with the suggestion to increase
the default timeout for the Fedora boot loader from its current default
setting of 0 (which causes the boot loader menu never to be shown at
all). There were many opinions on this idea, but the general response
was positive enough for Scott to file a feature request on the idea,
where some compromises were suggested. Richard Ryniker suggested having
the system detect unclean shutdowns and force the boot menu to be
displayed on the next boot (much as Windows does). Stewart Adam
suggested having grub initially installed with a non-zero timeout, and
have firstboot change it to zero on the assumption that a system that
can get to firstboot must have a properly configured bootloader.
--- Fedora 12 QA retrospective ---
James Laska posted a request for feedback on the Fedora 12 QA cycle
from anyone, both on things that went well and areas that could be
improved. Many group members posted replies, including Adam
Williamson, Jóhann Guðmundsson, and Rahul Sundaram.
-- Ambassadors --
In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project.
Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero
--- Fedora at NYSCATE ---
Karlie Robinson posted a follow-up to New York State Association for
Technology and Computers in Education in her blog. Karlie had a variety
of Fedora and XO materials available at the event.
Her blog is at:
"It was a good event and I hope we can do more next year," she says.
--- Fedora 12 is here ---
With Fedora 12 Constantine now here, this is a reminder that posting an
announcement of your event on Fedora Weekly News can help get the word
out. Contact FWN Ambassador correspondent Larry Cafiero at
lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org with announcements of upcoming events
-- and don't forget to e-mail reports after the events as well.
-- Translation --
This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n)
Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee
--- Fedora 12 Translation Schedule Tasks ---
The Translation Schedule for this week included the completion of the 0
day Release Notes for Fedora 12, to be published on
docs.fedoraproject.org. This task ended on 26th November 2009.
--- Accessibility Guide ---
Eric Christensen announced the availability of the Fedora Accessibility
Guide. However, this Guide is not yet ready for translation via
translate.fedoraproject.org due to the older version of Transifex that
is currently being used here.
--- New Members ---
Votta Luigi (Italian), Yajith Ajanta (Sinhala), Thomas Spitzmann
(German) joined the Fedora Localization Project last week.
-- Artwork --
In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team.
Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei
--- Interaction Design Hackfest ---
Máirín Duffy announced on @design-team an interaction design hackfest
" I am planning to hold a Fedora interaction design hackfest next
Tuesday to work on establishing a set of personas for Fedora" and
followed on her blog with a detailed plan " 1. Learn about how
interaction design is done. 2. Pick up some interaction design and user
research skills. 3. Get involved in an open design project. 4. Help make
Fedora better!". After the IRC meeting, she also published a summary
--- Game Screenshots Ready. Better Navigation Next ---
Máirín Duffy reported the accomplishment of distributed the task to
gather screenshots for the Games Spin "We are done. I just checked in
the last of the games images and we now have complete coverage. You
rock. 127 games. This may be the most complete set of free game
screenshots around. Congrats!" and opened a discuss for improving the
navigation of the page "I'd like to design it such that maybe the games
could be browsed slide-show style by category". James Mulroy proposed a
set of mockups. "I did a few very rough mock ups of an idea i had for
this, my idea would be to create a ajax browser for the screen shots"
and the discussion continued, exploring ways to categorize the content.
-- Security Advisories --
In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce.
Contributing Writer: Pascal Calarco
--- Fedora 12 Security Advisories ---
* tomcat6-6.0.20-1.fc12 -
* bind-9.6.1-13.P2.fc12 -
* php-pear-Net-Traceroute-0.21.2-1.fc12 -
* php-pear-Net-Ping-2.4.5-1.fc12 -
* bugzilla-3.4.4-1.fc12 -
--- Fedora 11 Security Advisories ---
* bind-9.6.1-7.P2.fc11 -
* tomcat6-6.0.20-1.fc11 -
* php-pear-Net-Ping-2.4.5-1.fc11 -
* php-pear-Net-Traceroute-0.21.2-1.fc11 -
* snort-220.127.116.11-1.fc11 -
* asterisk-18.104.22.168-1.fc11 -
--- Fedora 10 Security Advisories ---
* tomcat6-6.0.20-1.fc10 -
* php-pear-Net-Ping-2.4.5-1.fc10 -
* php-pear-Net-Traceroute-0.21.2-1.fc10 -
* asterisk-22.214.171.124-2.fc10 -
* snort-126.96.36.199-1.fc10 -
- end FWN 204 -
Pascal Calarco, Fedora Ambassador, Indiana, USA
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