[fedora-arm] Fedora 16

[Chris Tyler]

On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 19:17 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Chris Tyler <chris at tylers.info> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 17:49 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> >> So what's the status of this? Are we using the F-15 as the external
> >> repo base for building F-17? When is it going to happen? My
> >> understanding is we have enough of both arches built that we can start
> >> this rolling. It would be good to see some public movement on this now
> >> and to get this rolling rather than delaying further.
> >
> > No one's delaying, but there is a sequence to this that we shouldn't
> > short-circuit:
> >
> > * Sync up the armv5tel and armv7hl pre-koji package sets <= We are here
> > * Do final F15 build in Koji
> 
> It was my understanding from dgilmore's proposal above that we were
> going to skip F-15 and just go straight to F-17. Ultimately whether we
> do a final F-15 or F-17 it doesn't really matter, the current build
> tool chain for them both is derived from gcc 4.6.1

The proposal was to skip F16.

We're close to F15 and we need it. If we don't ship it, we have a
substantial time gap where we have no supported Fedora release. Shipping
F15 also gives us experience with systemd on ARM (and other pieces of a
fairly complete release, such as haskell and ocaml) which can feed into
the F17 development cycle.

> > * Release F15 (& start F15-updates builds)
> > * Finalize koji changes for rawhide (rpm, rpmbuild, yum, koji, armv7hl
> > rootfs)
> > * Do necessary prebuilds for rawhide (build-previous or other)
> > * Build for rawhide, shadow PA as closely as possible
> > * Branch F17 when PA does
> >
> > At the end of this process we'll be building for at least three releases
> > (F15updates, F17, rawhide) across two archs - 6 builds total.
> 
> Why? I thought the above process was with the idea of just using the
> F-15 work that was done as a base to go straight to F-17 and forget
> the rest. Clearly people need to start documenting the exact process
> for all to see.

The goal is to get as close to PA as possible, as quickly as possible.
If we follow only the F17 branch, we're in a catch-up position *again*
for F18. If we follow both rawhide and F17, we're in much better shape
for F18. And if we ship F15 for ARM, we need to ship updates (and prove
that we can ship timely updates, which will be important when making the
case for primary arch status).

-Chris