[fedora-arm] Soliciting feedback on Fedora ARM primary arch proposal

[Peter Robinson]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> wrote:
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> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:58:03 -0700
> Brendan Conoboy <blc at redhat.com> wrote:
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>> Hi everybody.
>>
>> This Monday FESCo did an initial review of the ARM team's ARM PA
>> Feature proposal.  As part of that review, they requested we get in
>> touch with affected groups including releng.  While Dennis Gilmore
>> has some specific plans in mind and was even involved in creating the
>> feature page, I'd like to solicit your (including Dennis) feedback on
>> what's been written and what still needs to be written as it pertains
>> to release engineering.
>>
>> The feature page in question is:
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>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraARM
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>> As you might have already ready on fedora-devel, this is a work in
>> progress and has some known deficits (EG, That multiple-kernel
>> koji-flag thing is going away).  We'll keep updating it based on the
>> feedback we receive until we have a plan that works for all the
>> stakeholders.  If you have some feedback that you haven't already
>> shared on fedora-devel, or that you want to share again because it's
>> really important and releng related please reply to this message and
>> let us know.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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> - From my point of view, we need to be able to  take the same inputs,
> into the same tools and get the expected outputs.
>
> So for things like a livesdcard image  we would feed the same spins
> kickastart into media-creator and get the raw disk image out,  I really
> dont see us making a dvd install equivalant image.  but i do see us
> making a boot.iso equivalant. as well as install trees for network
> installs. mash today does the right things.
>
> we need to be able to make the images in koji like we do on x86. we
> need a very clear definition of what releng will deliver for QA to
> test. Right now i think thats the biggest thing missing, today arm is
> producing repos and adhock creating root filesystems. the tooling to
> make a delievrable product needs to happen and we need to make sure we
> are very clear on what we are delivering and how we deliver it.

Agreed, and I believe media-creator is what's used in koji to generate
the various spins/EC2 images so IMO we should be working with that to
make that work sooner rather than later rather than spinning custom
tools.

Peter