[Fedora Board issue tracker] #182: GNOME 3.12 pushes Google and other commercial, non-FOSS "apps" at users

[Eric H. Christensen]

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On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:49:39AM -0400, Christian Schaller wrote:
> Is basically any website that doesn't offer a 'download all code and scripts required to re-create this web page on your own server' 
> button non-free? 

So...  hmmm... Very good questions here.  My gut tells me that Wordpress.com is okay (built on the open source Wordpress), Etherpad is good, I believe there is a commercial hosting of OwnCloud somewhere.

> Would lwn.net be considered a non-free web service? 

I thin kthat this, and similar, sites would be okay since they forward our cause to FOSS.  There is no UI (no service provided which appears to be the purpose of the webapps in GNOME) so it more of a consumable and not SaaS.

> Maybe I am coming off as a bit pedantic here, but I can't help but feel we are discussing 'non-free web services' based on individual gut
> feelings about what that term is supposed to mean. 

Nope, you are correct in that if we have a gut feeling about something (one way or the other) then we need to be able to clearly define it.

> I mean is there anyone here on this list who before this discussion actually had as a personal policy that you don't visit or use any website or
> service you don't have the source code to?

Maybe not that I don't have the source code for but definitely for their standings in the FOSS community.  I don't usually use Google services, avoid Microsoft anything, and basically host the stuff I really want to interact with myself.

- -- Eric

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