[Fedora-mktg-brazil] Fwd: [Ambassadors] LATAM: What is done, and the real problems that nobody tells

Filipe Rosset [Projeto Fedora] rosset.filipe at gmail.com
Wed Dec 2 13:59:58 UTC 2009


Pessoal, fiquem de olho, se programe para votar.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections

Em anexo segue um email da "tatica"

Eu penso ser fundamental que o Rodrigo continue, sem ele as coisas podem ficar ainda mais complicadas aqui no Brasil.




Filipe



-------- Mensagem original --------
Assunto: 	[Ambassadors] LATAM: What is done, and the real problems that
nobody tells
Data: 	Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:16:55 -0430
De: 	María Leandro <tatica at fedoraproject.org>
Responder a: 	fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
Para: 	fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com



Hello to all.

I'll like to translate to all of you a mail that I have just send to our
local list. Hope my english let you understand what's happening:

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Greetings to all

I think the best way that I will have to answer this is to address the
core issues of this mail.

1 .- "We are fighting internally without necessity." (Rodrigo Padula mail)
Rodrigo: The only discussion that was held at the freenode channel
#fedora-ambassadors and the topics were "why LATAM budget (+20.000us )
represents a problem to help countries other than Brazil and recently
Chile and Argentina. " This topic was discussed with Mr. John Rose, not me.

2 .- On the licensing of the wiki:
Rodrigo: This is an issue that is being solved in other thread, and is
not bad to have some protection. Again, I see no problems in the
discussions because things take patiently are solved.

3 .- His discussions with me and FAmSCo: (Rodrigo Padula mail)
Rodrigo: I remind you that you didn't do 2 of the 3 steps to FAmSCo. you
didn't sent the questionnaire with the ambassadors questions and did not
attend to any of the Town Hall (sessions for ambassadors to know you
better). All I said was that I worried about this situation... But
apparently you don't want me to join you in FAmSCo.

4 .- For the discussion on Channel ... honesty: (Rodrigo Padula mail)
Rodrigo: I apologized for accusing you of that (which really was only
one line of dialogue that said "I go to these channels since I started
with Fedora, you joined them since FAmSCo elections"). Now ... I wish
all my colleagues know that I answered that way because Mr. Rodrigo told
me directly "immature" and "because you act like your President Chavez"
(plus other things a little more offensive) I believe, were worse.
I do not like taking the gossip Rodrigo ... but if you want, I have no
problems.

5 .- On the personal relations: (Rodrigo Padula mail)
I think the only one with which I may have a misunderstood is with Mr.
Rodrigo. About the big things that you "talk" that wants to achieve in
LATAM I already have 4 months "working" on those. That I can show to
alll ... Now, that is not enough or that you will look bad, is another
thing... list a few of the things I'm working personally:
* Magazine Latam (we have 15 contributors now)
* Artwork regionalized IN SPANISH (no pt): we have 6 contributors
* Education: we have 5 contributors, starting with the efforts in Argentina.
* Medicine: 2 contributors (Venezuela is a pioneer in this field by
developing medical systems based on fedora)
* Translation: Several videos, guides and tutorials.
* Fedora Mobile: 4 contributors, are developing a distro for mobiles
* Fedora beginners: start developing an app for basic users

You see, deeds not words

We need to STOP, BREATHE, carefully read and write more calm!(Rodrigo
Padula mail)
+ 1

Long live peace! (Rodrigo Padula mail)


As a reflection Gentlemen
It's easy to put a +1 where we believe that another person has a good
idea, but how many of you are working on these big ideas? It is time to
act, because I have my conscience clean... all of you too? (those who
are working to ignore this)

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I'm really tired of this behavier. People acting like contributors
should do things measurable just for one of us and not for all of us.
This was something I was talking with Mel Chua (and now I think you
understand now why I said some things related to this issues) and I,
María Gracia Leandro, I'm not perfect, I don't have 10 years helping
fedora, but I do know something... I'm here because I want to help, and
I'm doing it (sometimes slowly, yes... but I never stop) and I'm tired
of being stop.

If this is happening to me, how many times has happened to some other
contributors? are we loosing people because "we don't do what _someone_
think is right?"

Like I said in my FAmSCo statement... I'm a fighter, and I'm here to
help people who really need someone to speck things that never are said.
Someone has to...

Sorry for bring this up, but I really think this was necessary



-- 
tatica
Maria Gracia Leandro
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http://www.fedora-ve.org
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro
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