[FZH] Fwd: Speed up user login into desktop.

[Tommy He]

这个这个，貌似意思是由于 GNOME 目前侧重于 Linux 所以整合 systemd 还好弄些，而其他 DE 需要考虑其他系统所以整合
systemd 可能性不大。

that distro with the 3 Us 有意思的说法～

On 20 August 2010 05:31, 甘露(Gan Lu) <rhythm.gan at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Yu Chen <jcomee at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 哇，systemd 要和 gnome 整合起来。
> 不是（怎么看一半就走呢），Lennart
> 说得很清楚，除非先解决下游发行版的问题，主要是ubuntu是否会放弃upstart，另外还有systemd明显是只支持linux，而GNOME则包括支持BSD和solaris。
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Lennart Poettering <mzerqung at 0pointer.de>
>> Date: 2010/8/20
>> Subject: Re: Speed up user login into desktop.
>> To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <
>> desktop at lists.fedoraproject.org>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 19.08.10 22:32, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johannbg at gmail.com) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>   On 08/19/2010 10:05 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>> > In the long run I want to make gnome use systemd for session management,
>>> > so that the same parallelization techniques we use for system boot can
>>> > be used for session startup as well.
>>>
>>> Are other *DE ( KDE XFCE LXDE Sugar etc ) being kept in the loop so they
>>> can take advantage of the parallelization techniques ?
>>
>> Well, I consider myself a GNOME developer, and that's my focus.
>>
>> systemd is very generic low-level code, so there shouldn't be a
>> technical barrier for other DEs adopting it too, and I'd welcome this
>> very much. However, there are certain political issues that will make
>> adoption by other DEs difficult: for one, systemd is Linux
>> specific. While in the GNOME world the idea that Linux is the only OS
>> that matters is kinda popular these days I assume that other
>> DEs care much more about niche OSes (hey, and KDE even cares about
>> Windows!).
>>
>> Also, regardless of the DE there is still that distro with the 3 Us in
>> its name which is unlikely to adopt systemd. Tying systemd into GNOME
>> and the other DEs would probably cement what they are already doing:
>> forking GNOME and maintaining things independently of upstream.
>>
>> So, in summary, this is something to push forward very carefully, and as
>> of now neither the technical nor the political preconditions have been
>> figured out how to do this best.
>>
>>> What are the plans regarding plymouth since the boot will be so fast?
>>> ( Feels kinda pointless having any kind of animation during startup )
>>
>> Well, if people plug more stuff into their boot, run all kinds of inet
>> servers, and other stuff, or have slower hw/rotating media, or have a
>> crypto fs plymouth will very much be needed.
>>
>> Lennart
>>
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