Cloud: Technology or Operations Model?

Mike McGrath mmcgrath at
Wed Jan 20 21:23:02 UTC 2010

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > I'll start this thread.  I'm firmly in the "a cloud is an operations
> > model" camp.  It's important because when people say "I want a cloud" and
> > we say "You want ovirt" or "you want eucalyptus."  I think that's wrong.
> OK, fair enough.  But there are also tools that are well suited to support
> that operations model, and tools that are poorly suited.
> If you build good enough tools, they become Technology with a capital T.
> That's what can happen when the open source model works.  Too many folks
> are trying to start on the Product end, instead of starting on the tools
> end (and by extension, the users end).  My $0.02.
> I'm interested in tools approaches that help our users.  I think that's
> the advantage that Fedora can provide -- a group of knowledgeable folks
> who share and refine the best tools.  Red Hat benefits if those tools,
> over time, emerge into a Product for which Red Hat can sell support.

Tools that help our users do what?  It can't be cloud stuff because at
that point it's circular reasoning.


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