"default virt server"

Peter Robinson pbrobinson at gmail.com
Mon Mar 1 05:27:25 UTC 2010

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > I agree with most of the above but I don't really see that this, AOS or
> a
> > > minimal (minimum?) install should be any different, and even the Amazon
> > > image should only add EC2 stuff on top of that so should be able to
> include
> > > this .ks and add a few pacakges and what ever scripting is needed for
> the
> > > ec2 images.
> >
> > The problem with the whole AOS/jeos/minimal OS idea is that it's a
> > race to the bottom.  There's this whole sub-culture of "let's see just
> > how tiny we can make it because *clearly* it's easier to add things
> > than remove them" when the end result of that is just a kernel and a
> > shell.
> >
> > I don't know, I just don't find that interesting or useful[1].  I'd
> > rather actually have utilities and the things I'd expect to find on a
> > Fedora system and not have to play games downloading packages for ages
> > and paying the bandwidth charges to do so as well.
> >
> I'm kind of with you on that.  I don't think the smallest / tiniest
> footprint is as important as a known starting point.  The funny thing is
> that anything beyond that is more subjective.  The example I'd give is
> what editor to include, vim/emacs or joe.

Definately pico ..... just joking!

I agree with that you don't want it too small. It needs to be usable. But I
also don't see the point in installing say a 'http' service where it could
easily be used as a db node or whatever. All the other base utils for IP,
networking, editing, package mangement, NAS drives etc should be there but
someone wanting to use it as a DB server shouldn't have to remove something.
Once that bit is worked out the only difference between the base 'virtual
server' image and say that of a EC2 image should be the tools that EC2 need.

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