removing NetworkManager from cloud image?

[Andy Grimm]

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Robyn Bergeron
<robyn.bergeron at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:34 PM, David Nalley <david at gnsa.us> wrote:
>>>
>>> F17 is not ready for automated deployment and hands off yum updates at the
>>> customer's sole management -- it hangs wayy too often.
>>>
>>> In part I don't understand why F17 is so unsuitable; The move to grub2, and
>>> its partial completion have caused reboots to fail without warning through
>>> updates.  It was bad enough to induce us to remove F17 images we had
>>> previously made visible to end customers, as the support load exploded and
>>> the cusomers did not want to pay for support on a bleeding edge, and
>>> unfinished product.  F15 and 16 were fine (there was a niggling issue on F16
>>> we had to address)
>>>
>>> -- Russ herrold
>>>
>>
>> Hi Russ,
>>
>> This is incredibly valuable feedback. If it's not overly proprietary
>> information, I'd be fascinated to know what the relative support load
>> from various distros is over their various releases. Any chance you
>> track that information??
>> Would you mind sharing what hypervisor/container you were using.
>> Aside from constant reboots, post-update reboots, is there any
>> additional areas for testing that you found need more
>> attention/testing?
>
> And not to distract from that the above information or train of
> thought in general - I will casually mention that this is the type of
> thing that makes me think that starting to work with QA on a better
> (or perhaps "existent") set of criteria / testing process for cloud
> images.  I think right now for EC2 it is basically "does it boot" -
> and IIRC the switch to grub2 certainly hosed us up quite a bit.

+1 ... it sounds like there will be more that we _can_ test with
cloud-init 0.7 in the picture.

> Does anyone test the creation and usage of their own images using
> other tools around alpha/beta, or simply wait until
> post-final-release?
>

I've done a couple of rounds of testing with ami-creator as the
builder and Eucalyptus as the target cloud.  This is the first Fedora
release I've done that for during alpha/beta, though.  I've tried to
use a kickstart as close as possible to the official Fedora one from
cloud-kickstarts; seems okay so far.

Andy