do we want `less` and `man` in the default cloud image?

[Kurt Seifried]

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 10/19/2012 09:58 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Continuing a discussion with gholms on IRC. There's a general
> question of how minimal we want the cloud image to be overall. I'd
> like to make it reasonably small (where reasonable is some
> hand-wavy value), but we're not ever going to be a stripped down
> TinyLinux or Damn Small Linux.
> 
> Garrett makes the point that the Fedora images should "feel like
> Fedora". We can probably discuss what exactly that means, but,
> okay, I can see that as a basic principle to weigh against "as tiny
> as possible". He also mentioned earlier that he has gotten feedback
> that people like to have man pages available. Right now, we're
> shipping about 6.2MB (on-disk) of man pages, but, um, no man
> browser. Adding man would add about 8.8M on-disk, as it pulls in
> groff and less. (Less is relatively tiny -- groff is the big 
> thing.) *

One comment: unlike most programs the functionality aspect of "man"
can be replicated by using man on another system or online man pages
(and by definition anyone using Fedora in the cloud will have access
to at least the online versions of man pages).

- -- 
Kurt Seifried Red Hat Security Response Team (SRT)
PGP: 0x5E267993 A90B F995 7350 148F 66BF 7554 160D 4553 5E26 7993

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux)
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=w5Yn
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----