Disabling firewalld on AWS?

Sam Kottler skottler at redhat.com
Wed Sep 11 12:13:50 UTC 2013



----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric V. Smith" <eric at trueblade.com>
> To: cloud at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:37:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Disabling firewalld on AWS?
> 
> On 09/10/2013 11:52 PM, Sam Kottler wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Michael Hampton" <error at ioerror.us> To:
> >> cloud at lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013
> >> 11:45:51 PM Subject: Re: Disabling firewalld on AWS?
> >> 
> >> 
> > On 09/10/2013 11:36 PM, Sam Kottler wrote:
> >>>> Given the deny-by-default nature of security groups I think
> >>>> it makes sense to disable firewalld in the AMI's. I haven't
> >>>> seen any other AMI's that have a firewall enabled by default
> >>>> and we probably shouldn't break that pattern IMO.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>> 
> > 
> > This is easily one of my least-favorite "features" of certain
> > Linux distributions.
> > 
> > Debian/Ubuntu images don't have a firewall enabled by default in
> > their cloud images because they don't have a firewall enabled at
> > all in a default installation. At least the last time I looked at
> > them; maybe they've gotten smarter in the last couple of years.
> > 
> > I'm not really sure I see a benefit here. There may not even be a
> > second firewall in front of the virtual machine; a user might turn
> > it off because it's getting in the way, or a cloud provider might
> > not provide this feature at all. I know of at least one public
> > cloud provider which has an external firewall feature similar to
> > AWS security groups, but it's off by default. In this case I see
> > plenty of downside.
> > 
> >> If people disable their firewall then that's their prerogative,
> >> but it's confusing and non-standard to have a firewall running on
> >> the instance and one running via the security group(s) that the
> >> host is in.
> 
> Also, I don't trust the public cloud providers to configure their
> firewall correctly.

So in your case you just `chkconfig firewalld on` and configure it. I'm sure that people who share your opinion (myself among them) will do that for the extra layer of security, but I'm just advocating for the Fedora images to follow the way other AMI's are handling firewalls.

> 
> Eric.
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