Fedora Atomic and Docker Host Image [was Re: Docker Host Image: Requirements?]

Josh Boyer jwboyer at fedoraproject.org
Tue Mar 11 12:19:38 UTC 2014

On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Matthew Miller
<mattdm at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 02:49:14AM +0000, Collins, Robert (Converged Cloud) wrote:
>> +1 on the overall message there, but let me also note that Ubuntu has a
>> far smaller base image which still includes Python. Seems like there is
>> likely plenty of fat elsewhere that can be pulled out if smaller is the
>> goal.
> Actually, this isn't the case. Fedora Cloud image is actually moderately
> smaller than Ubuntu already. We're not even much bigger than CoreOS. Size
> isn't the primary driver here. (Although if it were, python is actually one
> of the biggest individual things.)

/me tries to reconcile this statement with the kernel rip-up he's in
the middle of.

So we're already smaller than Ubuntu.  Size is one of the things we've
been told is key to adoption in the cloud.  If we're already smaller,
and Ubuntu is more widely adopted, I don't see that holding true.
What am I missing, or is the "we need a smaller kernel package" thing
somehow trying to pull the wool over my eyes?


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