Cloud image use cases

Haïkel hguemar at
Fri Jul 10 14:03:48 UTC 2015

2015-07-10 15:59 GMT+02:00 Ryan Brown <rybrown at>:

> On 07/10/2015 09:48 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 07:52:29AM -0500, Major Hayden wrote:
> >> Whenever I've spoken with customers about what they want from an OS
> >> in a virtual machine, they want it to contain a small package set
> >> that lets them run their automation on top of it (i.e. Ansible, Chef,
> >> Puppet). Removing Python from that image would be a serious curveball
> >> since most people expect to have Python available on any system
> >> running yum/dnf.
> >
> > Yeah, I'm willing to back down on wanting to remove Python.
> +1 It'd be a lot of work (rewriting dnf/whatever, maintaining both
> codebases, etc) for (relatively) little gain.

Depends: for end-users, it could mean a smaller bill each month on storage.

But I agree that we're not ready to drop python and it's *unlikely* before
a long time.
I also agree that it shouldn't be a high/medium priority task.

As for dnf, there are discussion upstream to rewrite it in C, VMWare has
also written
a drop-in replacement for dnf based on hawkey/librepo that could be

The more problematic component is cloud-init.

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