Fedora 22 is out, Fedora 23 is coming :)

Matthew Miller mattdm at fedoraproject.org
Thu Jun 4 16:47:32 UTC 2015

On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 12:31:15PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >> * https://github.com/vmware/tdnf this might help us to go another step
> >>   closer to remove Python stack from the cloud image.* Having a better
> > We need to talk to Peter Jones about plans to rewrite grubby in Python.
> > I'm very sympathetic to his wish to have it no longer be in C, but if
> > we _really_ are moving to getting python out....
> Er, can you elaborate on this desire to get python out?  I'm kind of
> confused.  Particularly about why grubby is such a concern.  If you
> don't have python, you don't have yum/dnf which means updating your
> kernel in your cloud image at _runtime_ is a PITA.  If you aren't

Well, see above — tdnf is python-free dnf (from which you could
bootstrap to the full one).

> updating your kernels at runtime and are instead relying on the whole
> image to be respun (ala Atomic or otherwise) then you don't need
> grubby anyway and it doesn't matter what language it's written in.

And maybe that's the best path.

> This really kind of baffles me.  I would love to hear the reasoning
> behind it.

I think because it's one of the biggest and most complex things in

Matthew Miller
<mattdm at fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader

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