Atomic 2 week releases

[Michael P. McGrath]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Brockmeier" <jzb at redhat.com>
> To: cloud at lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:55:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases
> 
> On 03/10/2015 09:20 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote:
> >  Fedora in particular will have their
> > rawhide and stable releases promoted differently on the Fedora sites and
> > the project atomic page will likely promote things a little differently
> > and that is probably Ok as long as everyone ultimately has a choice to
> > download whatever they want.  I think the promotion part is largely just
> > a way to direct people who otherwise don't know how to make an informed
> > decision.
> 
> If we don't have a unified story between Project Atomic and Fedora w/r/t
> what to download and what we think people "should" use, it's going to be
> confusing. I'm very concerned that an Atomic that conforms to the normal
> Fedora release cycle + a fast-moving Fedora-based Atomic from Project
> Atomic is going to be a messaging nightmare.
> 
> Some people's entry point to the discussion is via Project Atomic, some
> enter via Fedora - and then of course we get people coming from third
> parties who are writing about Project Atomic for a variety of reasons
> and with a varying level of understanding about what Atomic is. We've
> seen people just assume "oh, there's a CentOS build that says Atomic, it
> *must* be a rebuild of RHEL Atomic" (which is wrong) and come away
> disappointed.
> 
> Assuming we'll be OK as "everyone has a choice to download what they
> want" may be overly optimistic here.
> 
> The more I think about this, the more I think we really need a unified
> story rather than having two separate entry paths to Atomic for Fedora.
> 

Perhaps I'm missing something then.  Is there something specific to Fedora
that you're concerned about that somehow we can ignore with CentOS and
RHEL Atomic Host?  I would think we'd need to align as best as we can
with all of our communities.

The messaging seems pretty simple to me and properly aligned with the
communities.

Fedora = Newest
CentOS = Stable
RHEL = Supported

I get that there are several offerings that Fedora has, I don't feel
compelled to list them all on projectatomic.io to people who likely won't
have the information to make an informed decision anyway.  We pick one
for them, give a few word description on what it is, and set them loose.

    -Mike

> > On the Project Atomic side I'm mostly concerned with the emerging tech.
> > Getting new features in front of people as soon as possible.  In the
> > short term, Fedora rawhide really is the only place to do that.  Longer
> > term
> > though there is a desire to base the Atomic dependent packages (docker,
> > kubernetes, etcd, ostree, etc.) on something more stable.
> 
> 
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