Cloud image lifetimes

milanisko k vetrisko at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 07:57:41 UTC 2015


I vote for different life-time for different purpose, precisely as David
suggests: scratch, test, RC, Final (Beta).
But let's also don't forget about policy for testing the amis: how long to
keep amis that failed testing in particular release stage.
Ideally, we should also keep track of released/available amis so people are
able to easily find particular version and flavor of Fedora amis.
My usual use case is: reproduce a bug on e.g. F20 + some software stack.
I find F20 ami ideal for this but the issue is to locate it[1].

Cheers,
milan

[1] http://thecloudmarket.com/


2015-03-19 5:11 GMT+01:00 M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb at znmeb.net>:

> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:38 PM, David Gay <dgay at redhat.com> wrote:
> > Greetings!
> >
> > We sort of ran out of time in today's Cloud WG meeting, but I did want
> to ask:
> >
> > What are your thoughts on AMI lifetimes? That is to say, how long should
> EC2 AMIs exist before they're deleted? A few points to consider:
> >
> > - AMIs only cost us for storage, so it's not a *huge* cost to maintain a
> public AMI
> >   - At the same time, there are a lot of AMIs, since we build 2-4 per
> AWS region per build, and that number is growing
> >     - There are 9 regions now, and we have 2 virtualization types, and 2
> volume types, as well (9 regions * 2 * 2 = 36 AMIs per Base image build, 18
> for Atomic builds (since they are only available in HVM format))
> >       - This total number will only grow larger as we add instance-store
> AMIs, and so on
> > - This isn't even taking into account any costs we'll have once we
> secure a deal with other providers like HP, Rackspace, and GCE, to maintain
> public images on their services
> >
> > I propose we have some sort of discussion regarding how long cloud image
> builds should be available on services like AWS. I suspect this will
> resolve to having different lifetimes for scratch, test, RC, final, and
> maybe other build types.
> >
> > Any input is appreciated. We can certainly talk about this at next
> week's meeting, as well.
> >
> > -- David
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> Surely you or someone on the team must have some raw data on usage for
> the existing AMIs, including comparisons for how much usage Fedora
> AMIs get vs. CentOS AMIs and RHEL AMIs. Don't build / maintain what
> people aren't using!
>
> If you have raw data, I'd be happy to explore it for you - email me
> off-list if you need an NDA or something like that.
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