[DISCUSS] Cloud and Server Workgroup relationship

Matt Micene nzwulfin at gmail.com
Wed Nov 4 16:27:20 UTC 2015

> Because we can not even guess what all use cases people have while using a
> cloud instance?

I'd say we have the same process with Server.  Most people take a minimal
server image and deploy required applications with their own tooling.
There are some opinions (roles) that exist to do some common expected
things, but (imo) rolekit is an opinionated configuration tooling system.
Like ansible or shell scripts.

There's not a lot of difference between the major use cases of Server and
Cloud, just an opinion on how minimal a Base should be.

- Matt M

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Kushal Das <mail at kushaldas.in> wrote:

> On 03/11/15, Matt Micene wrote:
> > I think this highlights the problem we're currently seeing with the
> Fedora
> > Cloud Base adoption
> >
> > On 10/28/2015 07:42 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > > Actually, I don't think that's true. Take a look at "fr1st p0st":
> > > >
> > > >
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/2010-January/000001.html
> >
> >
> > There is no singular Fedora release anymore, so what are people getting
> > when they install Cloud Base?  The `cloudtoserver` script essentially
> > disables cloud-init and installs Fedora Server.  So what's in the Cloud
> > Base box when we say it's the "base building block of the Fedora
> flavors"?
> > What was the point of creating use case editions and not using them in
> the
> > cloud?
> Because we can not even guess what all use cases people have while using a
> cloud instance? People generally take the base image, and have their own
> tooling (say ansible, or shell scripts) which deploys the required
> applications in the cloud. This is where the minimal cloud base image
> comes handy.
> Kushal
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