Two-Week Atomic actual deliverables

Jason Brooks jbrooks at redhat.com
Fri Sep 11 17:49:33 UTC 2015



----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Miller" <mattdm at fedoraproject.org>
> To: "Fedora Cloud SIG" <cloud at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:59:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Two-Week Atomic actual deliverables
> 
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 01:02:10PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > * Vagrant boxes:
> >   - same tunir-based test suite in VM environemnt
> 
> Followup! Kushal points out that we are testing the KVM vagrant images
> in this way, but not testing VirtualBox. (Because we don't have
> VirtualBox in Fedora or EPEL, because out-of-tree kernel modules.).
> Like the qcow2->ec2 thing, these are the same bits as something that
> _is_ autotested, but run in a different environment. Unlike qcow2->ec2,
> we aren't even doing a boot test.
> 
> 
> Things which could go wrong which I see are:
> 
> * some VirtualBox-specific thing with booting an updated kernel or
>   grub2 (for example, updated kernel missing some drivers or something
>   that VirtualBox needs)
> 
> * some corruption or something in the image conversion
> 
> These seem mostly unlikely, but far from impossible.
> 
> 
> Since VirtualBox is the format the vast majority of Vagrant users will
> want, that's... kind of a big deal. *sigh* Options I can see here are:
> 
> A) Scramble to find some way to do the VirtualBox testing.

I'm in favor of A. We want to reach as many people as possible,
put free software in the hands of those toiling under proprietary
systems and what have you...

> 
> B) Don't publish the VirtualBox images.
> 
> C) Publish the VirtualBox images, but put them in a Penalty Box with
>    extra warnings
> 
> Any other ideas? Preferences? B seems the most responsible, yet also
> the most sad. A would be highly unusual for our infrastructure. C could
> expose us to looking bad if support breaks and no one notices.
> 
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