Two-Week Atomic actual deliverables

[Adam Miller]

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Chris Murphy <lists at colorremedies.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Adam Miller
> <maxamillion at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty neutral on B or C. I don't really care and also don't think it
>> should even remotely be a concern of ours. Not only do we not have
>> testing for it but we don't even have the building blocks in place to
>> work towards testing it. VirtualBox is bad and those who use it should
>> feel bad.[0]
>
> I'm curious what you think others should feel when they use VMware
> ESXi or Fusion, or Microsoft Hyper-V, in particular as it compares to
> the feeling they should have when using VirtualBox?
>
> On Windows and OS X, there is no qemu+kvm+libvirt. So I see VirtualBox
> as the least bad option on those platforms. When I'm using Fedora I
> use vmm/virsh because, well yeah VirtualBox is like the booger I can't
> flick off on OS X, meanwhile on Fedora there's something better.

Nothing, it was a rude comment that I shouldn't have made.

>
>
>> This is probably not a popular opinion and I'm fine with that, but we
>> would have to install something that we very publicly speak out
>> against in order to test this. I'm not yet ready to throw out Fedora's
>> values for the sake of some OS X user's convenience but that's just
>> me.
>
> OK well considering the UX of Linux on Macs is highly variable between
> totally utterly frustrating shit, and semi-tolerable except for
> exhibits A, B, C, and D all of which suck. The incentive, therefore,
> is to just run proprietary OS X on proprietary hardware and VirtualBox
> instead of yet more proprietary crap in order to semi-sanely run
> something that's not crap or proprietary without having to buy
> additional hardware and all the costs that ensue.
>
> *shrug*
>
> It's sorta like playing cards and telling someone they should feel bad
> about the hand they've been dealt. Their choice was really limited to
> showing up at a particular game in a particular location, not the
> details of the hand they're dealt.
>
>

I don't think that's remotely the same thing but I'm fine agreeing to disagree.

I'm just going to step away from this thread, y'all decide on what you
want and/or what you think users want.

-AdamM

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