[Bug 226377] Merge Review: rpm

Thorsten Leemhuis fedora at leemhuis.info
Fri Aug 24 16:37:27 UTC 2007


On 24.08.2007 17:41, Matt Domsch wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 11:37:45AM -0400, Max Spevack wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>
>>> On 24.08.2007 16:57, Max Spevack wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> ELEMENT #2 -- The Fedora Project needs to be open-minded and inclusive
>>>> to new ideas, and alternative implementations of things.
>>> Agreed, but some thing might be tested somewhere outside first. I 
>>> think for such cases we should open a kind of "alphaworks" 
>>> "experimental kitchen", "Fedora experimental grounds" or something 
>>> like that sooner or later.
>> That's one of the things that was talked about surrounding this 
>> discussion.  In short -- what would it take to have an "experimental" 
>> repository available for people to try things that might be considered 
>> particularly disruptive, etc to the "mainstream" Fedora processes.
>> What are some of the bigger technical challenges that stop us from just 
>> setting something like that up pretty quickly/easily?
> 
> With the compose tools open, anyone can compose to their hearts
> content.

/me wonders if he missed anything

Sorry, not sure if I can't follow: what do you mean exactly "by compose
tools"? The software we use in our build-stack? koji (+ mock), + bodhi?

> As for making their own repositories, that's one thing
> fedorapeople.org can assist with.  For reasonable sizes of additional
> packages, any Fedora contributor can publish a yum repository on
> fedorapeople.org.

Sure -- but the real repos for in that testing area likely should IMHO
be maintained similar to our normal repo and with our normal tools. E.g.
build with packages using koji (needs special tag, needs mock configs)
and push with bodi.

<disclaimer value="I'm a GNOME-user!"><dreaming>Now that most of KDE4
likely will miss F-8 it for example might be nice to have a
"experimental" area with more space than fedorapeople.org to create a
KDE4 overlay-repo for F8 there. It could server packages from a special
cvs-tag/branch that got build by koji and pushed by bodhi to the special
repo and maintained during the lifetime of F8. Maybe even an additional
FC6-with-KDE4 spin could be hosted there once F8 is out. then those
users that want KDE4 in as soon as it's released could get it there
while normal F8 users get the well-tested old KDE 3.5.X
</dreaming><disclaimer>

CU
thl




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