GNOME as the default desktop (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Minutes - 2010-12-06)

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

On 12/15/2010 04:51 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Some examples of what this means:
>
>        * Desktop SIG defines the default GTK theme and hardcodes the
>          theme as dependency.
>        * Desktop SIG defines gnome-icon-theme as the default icon theme
>          and hardcodes it too.
>        * These two pull in other gnome packages. It is impossible to
>          install a desktop without having fedora-gnome-theme or
>          gnome-icon-theme
>        * Some more examples of painful dependency bloat:
>          https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=depchain
>        * Removal of hal-storage just a few days before beta freeze.
>        * Removal of the legacy icon names shortly before beta freeze
>          resulting in many missing icons.
>        * Removal of the notification area which and the resulting API
>          changes in libnotify 0.7.0 breaks all other desktop bug
>          gnome-shell.
>        * Change from Nodoka to Clearlooks. Many people objected, after
>          FPL spoke up the GNOME SIG promised to revisit the decision and
>          keep us informed. This did not happen.
>        * Black notifications that looked like a Ubuntu ripp-of. Again
>          many people objected, but again GNOME SIG did not care.

Is this not something FESCO can deal with and act upon?

> And now there is
> http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2010/12/second-class-citizens.html
>

Yeah this came as a bit surprise and the Design meeting log are really 
interesting and bit revealing as well.

 From the looks of it is time for a Design SIG to emerge to prevent 
corporate monopolist.

> This really makes me wonder if Fedora is a distribution to work on for
> people who are not using the one and only true desktop that must not be
> named but called "the Fedora desktop" [1].

Yeah that's a question that every contributor in every corner of the 
project needs to be asking himself at this moment and perhaps a meeting 
between the contributors and the followers of all spins of every purpose 
with equal rights *vision* in the community needs to be held and the 
matter discussed as in what they can do within the project or whether 
they unite and fork off or find a new home within another distro.

JBG