Introducing SILO to the Fedora Board
Dave Riches
david.r at ultracar.co.uk
Thu Jun 2 09:57:00 UTC 2011
On 06/02/2011 03:02 AM, Matt Clark wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> Thanks for the luck. We'll definitely need it, I don't see any of
> what I'm talking about to be easy. :)
>
> On officiality, I also think an official relationship (I'm not sure
> what that means, but I took it as 'affiliation') with the Fedora
> project would be wise either given that we need to remain neutral if
> the intended service provided is mediation. If we're under obligation
> to Fedora it will do exactly what you suggested: It would be adding
> another layer and complicating things.
>
> However, a friendly joint effort wouldn't. Basically we just need to
> figure out how we can administrate our respective corners of the
> internet in a way that creates a little stable harmony with each
> other. We'd like to see some penalty policies for operators and
> admins, etc, be able to provide support to users that otherwise
> wouldn't be getting that support from #fedora (we're trying it out
> with just IRC right now), and a good way to collect reports of abuse
> and to provide those reports meaningfully to you guys through
> effective channels.
You keep beating the "operator abuse" drum, but I am still at a loss as
to any evidence of unresolved operator abuse. Perhaps the context of
this discussion should be moved away from your personal experiences and
be based on *actual* evidence of operator abuse? Or just leave it alone?
>
> From my perspective I think very few changes in programs or policies
> would be needed to make that happen, this would probably be mostly an
> unofficial loose agreement and seeing where it goes.
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin at scrye.com
> <mailto:kevin at scrye.com>> wrote:
>
> Hey Matt.
>
> First let me wish you luck with your group. More good support
> resources
> are always a good thing.
>
> That said, I'm not sure any kind of official relationship would be of
> benefit. Another layer of mediation that is outside the project
> seems to
> be like it would just be adding in another layer and complicating
> things. Perhaps we could work to improve the processes in place
> already
> in the irc-support-sig instead of trying to integrate a possible non
> neutral third party into the process.
>
> I look forward to hearing your (and anyone elses) ideas.
>
> (The irc-support-sig meets on thrsdays at 17UTC in #fedora-meeting).
>
> kevin
>
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