[Design-team] First Design Suite Build

Brad Fanella linuxguy16 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 31 01:30:24 UTC 2009

Maybe you could make the full build and a netinstall? I'm fine with a file
that big, but I know many people don't have DVD-ROM's, so that could help as

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Sebastian Dziallas <sebastian at when.com>wrote:

> Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > On 12/22/2009 01:01 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> Sorry for being so calm over the holidays - I was planning to get all of
> this done much earlier but got somehow stuck in the middle.
> >> as I said some time ago on list I'll be doing the Design Suite for
> >> Fedora 13. Having had some pretty cool discussion with Diana, Mel and Mo
> >> in the hackroo... hospitality suite at FUDCon, I've created and uploaded
> >> a first build.
> >
> > Nice... are available anywhere some notes about the design concepts
> > agreed there? (like select 'best of breed' apps or include as much as
> > possible, restrict to graphics or also go for audio/video, include or
> > not data...)
> I think (if I recall correctly) we were taking the "what would help
> designers - so also people on the design team or those who want to get
> involved" approach. Admittedly, that's a pretty broad one and I think we
> mentioned that having sample content and introductions either somewhere
> on the spin or on a bookmarked page would be good.
> >> It's already based on yesterday's Rawhide, even though it still calls
> >> itself Generic 12 - which means it might very well break. It worked for
> >> me in a VM, so you might just want to give it a try. It's currently
> >> around 900 MB and already using Peter Robinson's modified base package
> >> set, but we'll see if we can fit it into CD-size for the final release.
> >
> > I don't think CD size is a realistic target, my suggestion is to aim for
> > 2GB USB sticks (maybe 1.5GB worth of application, leaving some space for
> > live persistence)
> Well, it depends on what we end up with. For example OpenOffice Impress
> is a *major* space consumer. Basically, it means that we're using about
> 150 MB for a single application. Excluding that one would bring us down
> to 750 MB, which isn't too far from CD-size. However, since we're just
> starting to talk about it, I guess we'll just see what comes close.
> In the end, it might well be a 2 GB target - I don't know, yet.
> >> Actually, I was trying to upload it somewhere quickly and ended up using
> >> Wuala. You might need to run a java applet to download it immediately,
> >> depending on whether my upload has already propagated to all their
> >> systems. Peter has already offered to help with hosting, so this is just
> >> a very very temporary solution.
> >>
> >> Anyway, enough talk, here you go: http://www.wuala.com/sdziallas/fedora
> >>
> >> If you've any suggestions concerning which apps to include, to remove or
> >> what else to do, just shout! There's still a bit on my list and I'll
> >> move ahead and document more things over winter vacation, too.
> >
> > I don't think I will get the time to play with it this year, can you
> > provide the list of packages?
> Finally, I've thrown something in the wiki -
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_Suite#Packages has all the
> details. I didn't include a real rationale for now, so feel free to rant!
> ;)
> Aside from that, the page looks really cool (thanks Mel!) - if anybody
> has package suggestions or further ideas, just add them there.
> Cheers & Happy New Year!
> --Sebastian
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