[Design-team] Summary of today's meeting / ideas for council presentation

Tue Oct 6 20:22:15 UTC 2015

Whoops and I forgot the meetbot links:

http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2015-10-06/fedora-design.2015-10-06-16.01.html

~m

On 10/06/2015 04:19 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We had a meeting today, and myself, mleonova, riecatnor, and tatica
> attended. Here is a quick run-through of what we discussed; ***please***
> feel more than welcome to reply here and continue the discussion:
>
> Tickets
> =======
>
> #360 Fedora LiveUSB Creator artwork
> -----------------------------------
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/360
>
> mbriza joined us for this discussion; mleonova created a mockup of two
> variations, one with the spins/labs icons in fedora blue, another with
> the spins/labs icons in a patterned grey. (the concern to be addressed
> with this is that the gray icons looked like they were inactive / not
> selectable in the UI context.) We decided to go with the patterned gray
> versions.
>
> mockup: http://i.imgur.com/6BXS7lF.png
>
>
> #403 Icons for new FAS website
> ------------------------------
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/403
>
> riecatnor shared her first drafts of the icon designs and asked for
> feedback. Some points that were brought up in the discussion:
>
> - the first row and fourth row were the favorite designs.
> - we weren't sure what the 'platform' icon should be in the original
> request; riecatnor will ask reporter
> - we wanted to see the icons in context in a UI screenshot, but the app
> was down during our meeting so we couldn't see what the app looks like
> to try to imagine the icons in context. riecatnor will ask reporter for
> screenshots / to set site back up so she can take screenshots and maybe
> mockup the icons in context.
> - need to confirm with reporter the target icon display size - may need
> to snap artwork to the pixel grid if its sufficiently small
> - try in the group icon to maybe do a shoulder line for the center
> person and taper it off about halfway down
>
>
> New Meeting Time
> ================
>
> So far the largest number of folks can make 9 AM EDT / 1 PM UTC on
> Wednesdays, but we are waiting on more folks to respond to the survey.
> If you have not filled out the meeting time survey, please do so now at
> this URL:
>
> http://whenisgood.net/hype2fi
>
>
> Design Team Fedora Council Presentation
> =======================================
>
> We'd like to make a presentation about the status of our team to the
> Fedora Council. Matthew Miller posed the following items as suggestions
> as to what the preso could cover:
>
> <mizmo>   - the current state of the subproject
> <mizmo>   - future plans
> <mizmo>   - things the team needs from the rest of the project
> <mizmo>     - any blockers we can help unblock
> <mizmo>     - big resource requests?
>
> Here's what we talked about, but if we missed anything or if you have
> big ideas, please let's discuss here on list!
>
>
> Current State of the Design Team:
> ---------------------------------
>
> Our current state is good.
>
> We had a Fedora Activity Day this past January 2015
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014) as a sort of reboot
> for the team, and we accomplished lasting progress at that time. We
> cleaned out our ticket queue and set up a new system for ticket filing
> and reviews, and we re-established our regular meetings which we're
> still doing. Our ticket queue remains fairly clean and sane
> post-cleaning, meaning our maintenance processes are likely working.
> Similarly riecatnor and threebean redesigned the Fedora Badge design new
> ticket submission process and are getting more detailed and
> better-written badge request tickets as a result.
>
> One upcoming issue is that I've been running the meetings and will be
> out on medical leave Nov/Dec - Feb/Mar, so we need to get on a new
> meeting schedule ahead of time to try to get into a routine with other
> folks leading the meetings.
>
>
> Future Plans:
> -------------
>
> mleonova is working on a project to clean up our swag assets and put
> together a directory with print-ready, pre-approved Fedora swag designs.
> More on her project here:
> https://mashaleonova.wordpress.com/2015/10/06/sharing-in-open-source-and-swag/
>
>
> mizmo has been working on the Fedora Hubs project
> (http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/category/fedora/fedora-hubs/ ) and ongoing
> updates to Fedora websites (e.g. redesign of www.getfedora.org for new
> Atomic focus
> http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2015/09/15/fedora-atomic-logo-idea/ )
>
> Any other folks with big plans please shout out so we can add them to
> our list!
>
>
> Things Design Team Needs from the Rest of the Project:
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> This is where we spent the bulk of our discussion time. :)
>
> 1) Design Team FAD 2016
>
> We talked about potentially holding another Design Team FAD (Fedora
> Activity Day) sometime in 2016, after March, and the focus could be both
> recruiting new folks (maybe hosting at a university or colocated with a
> design event where we could get some recruits) and working on badge
> artwork. Riecatnor mentioned the badge artwork queue is quite long and
> we need help.
>
> 2) Show Me the Content!
>
> We often get asked to design materials without being given content to
> use. Sometimes this manifests in designs filled with lipsum that end up
> needing substantial changes when the real content comes in, sometimes it
> manifests in designers writing the content themselves. For the rest of
> the project, the takeaway here is that we really need the content before
> we can do a workable design in a timely and efficient manner.
>
> 3) Recruiting and Retention
>
> We do struggle a bit with recruiting and retention. One idea we came up
> with was to have more events - virtual events - like office hours where
> new folks can show up to get help. In terms of retention a frequent
> reason we're aware of for folks leaving the team is different work
> schedules or general business.
>
> 4) Need Specs + Printer Info + Reasonable Time Please
>
> Commonly we're asked to do design tasks that involve printing (paper
> items or swag) but not provided specs or contact information for the
> printer/producer of the items. This ends up causing extra work for the
> designers who sometimes need to completely reformat a design for when
> they finally get specs for the printer, and unfortunately sometimes
> results in the design being produced incorrectly (riecatnor cited the
> Flock Rochester booklets as an example of this.) The integrity of our
> designs should be treated as seriously as the integrity of Fedora's
> code, so we need appropriate specifications and printer information to
> ensure the designs are produced correctly. (And enough time to do this
> all in!)
>
> 5) Need a Better Swag Strategy
>
> This is kind of my personal pet peeve, but we did talk about some kind
> of higher-level strategy regarding the swag art we produce for folks
> making swag since from the design team's standpoint it's rather ad-hoc:
>
> - Is there a place for discussions about how much swag we produce, the
> environmental impact, the strategic necessity of the swag being
> produced, etc.
>
> - Could we put some bounds on swag production to help manage it, for
> example, certain types of swag like T-shirts are okay to produce for
> premiere Fedora events (Flock, FUDcons) but for smaller events like FAD
> we won't do it or we'd have less impactful items available (like stickers?)
>
> - Could we consider alternatives to T-shirts, and maybe produce
> higher-quality shirts (like high quality polos) that are given 1 per
> contributor and per event make collectible pins available that could be
> put on the shirt or bags or other items? (E.g., like these sort of
> things:
> http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/10033428/Images/pelk15.jpg
> )
>
> - There are some regional differences in swag production; Tatica
> mentioned LATAM does not have more than one T-shirt run a year and not
> many shirts are produced. So any changes in policy would need to
> consider regional differences.
>
>
>
> Any other thoughts or ideas, please feel free to throw in!!!
>
> ~m
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