Kyrre Ness Sjobak kyrre at
Fri Nov 12 15:40:18 UTC 2004

fre, 12.11.2004 kl. 01.06 skrev Arturo:
> Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
> >tor, 11.11.2004 kl. 16.08 skrev seth vidal:
> >  
> >
> >>On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 14:58 +0000, chapmanccc at wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>To the developers,
> >>>
> >>>The Linux operating system is maturing and we all hope that it will be
> >>>a major contender in the home and business markets.  As it approaches
> >>>this goal, the customer base changes.  Linux is no longer the "geek
> >>>OS" it once was.  Where once the predominant profile of a Linux user
> >>>was a young male, you now find fathers and husbands (I am both), women
> >>>(I am married to one) and children (I have three).  Linux is my main
> >>>OS at home and my wife and oldest child also use it.
> >>>
> >>>With this evolution, a level of professionalism must also take place.
> >>>Being that the Fedora project is one of the leading consumer Linux
> >>>distributions, I would hope the developers would want to 'lead the
> >>>pack' in this area.
> >>>
> >>>This brings me to my point.  I was rather disappointed with the
> >>>content in the "WebCollage" and "Barcode" screensavers.  These
> >>>screensavers have since been manually removed from my system, but I
> >>>would have preferred them not to be installed by default.  When I
> >>>install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like this is not included.  Why?
> >>>Because the developers strive to build a professional product.  Yes, I
> >>>can install items like this with Mac OS or Windows, but I would need
> >>>to download or purchase them after installing the OS.
> >>>
> >>>Developers, please be considerate when creating the Fedora
> >>>distributions and let's strive to make Linux as professional as
> >>>possible.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>I agree, We should have more professional behavior. And since most
> >>professionals are adults and know that world is filled with all sorts of
> >>things that _you_ may not like but that others may, I think we should
> >>respect the differences between people and let adults choose what
> >>behavior of their screensavers they want. Therefore, I recommend
> >>screensaver preferences! In EVERY DESKTOP! The ability to choose a
> >>screensaver must be included in the distribution to put a stop to this
> >>anti-professional degradation.
> >>
> >>
> >>oh.. wait.. they're already there.
> >>
> >>hmm.
> >>
> >>-sv
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Yes they are. But imagine removing those on every damn user profile
> >in... lets say a school.
> >
> >What really should be done, is split the screensaverpackage in three
> >rpms (at least) - "xscreensaver-safe", "xcsreensaver-gl", and
> >"xscreensaver-others". At least the two first should be installed by
> >default. The reason to split it, is that the gl package can then be
> >removed safely from systems where it is not wanted. Simply beckause they
> >suck CPU, and on non-hw-3d deployments, you migth not want them.
> >
> >  
> >
> This is the most constructive suggestion I've seen on the list so far in 
> response to this issue, and so I second it.. I am however, somwhat 
> curious as to what offensive words popped-up in Barcode.
> Peace

Thank you. Splitting it up should really be best for all parties - so
that if you want it, you can install the rpm (from yum, even). If you
dont, remove it, and youll never have an update putting it back behind
your back.

Same goes to the GL and other cpu-hogs - on a LTSP server, i would *very
much indeed* like to kill off those - through the package system...

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