fedora 6/7 - why do you ignore k3b by default?

[Jeff Spaleta]

On 5/16/07, Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic at gmail.com> wrote:
> I use fedora from fc1 and I have never heard of Mugshot - and
> how many new users will use it even if they know about it?
> I guess not too many - and those who use it will be geeks, not your standard
> fedora desktop user.

First of all, you are making a pile of assumptions concerning what a
"standard fedora desktop user" and what a "geek" is and assuming that
"geeks" don't make up a majority of the installed userbase.  This
really needs to stop.  You can not have sensible arguments predicated
on your perception of what the average or standard or geek user is
using.

There are only two ways to approach a constructive conversation
concerning things like what default applications should be from a user
perspective.

1) Define a narrowly tailored definition of ideal usage/user scenario,
that in no way claims to be typical or average. You haven't really
laided out a case as to why k3b is needed as a default.  Just because
it has the most functionality (in your view) doesn't mean its the best
choice to meet any specific functionality requirements in a targetted
usage case. Maximum functionality is not a usage case. Once people
agree that this usage/user scenario is worth targeting, then everyone
can discuss application choices based on that usage/user.  Compromises
then are made to best satisfy the competing demands of all targeted
usage/user scenarios and technical constraints resulting in a solution
that may not be optimal for any specific scenario.

2) Discussion using statistically significant metrics concerning
applications in wide use, to help determine what functionality the
targeted usage scenarios isn't providing that is commonly needed in
the real-world installbase. This sort of thing is very hard to do
because until Mugshot started doing what Mugshot is doing, there's no
metric on application usage.
If you care about trying to gauge what the userbase is actually using
(installing is not using), then you should definitely be looking very
closely at what Mugshot is doing with application metrics.  Mugshot is
pretty much the only tool right now that can claim to give any
systematic picture of relative application usage in the fedora
userbase.  If Mugshot can be enabled on enough systems to give a
representative sampling of the install base, then its your best and
only hope at having real metrics for application usage to mull over
instead of personal perceptions.

-jef"9 out of 10 Helen's agree, I miss grip"spaleta