Request for comments for Banshee transition feature proposal

[David Nielsen]

Den 25. feb. 2009 00.19 skrev Martin Sourada <martin.sourada at gmail.com>:

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> >
> Well, I am not a member of the desktop SIG and as such I have no word in
> the actual choosing (other than expressing my opinion), but I personally
> don't think it is a good idea. First of all Rhythmbox was still Gnome
> default audio player and Totem video player last time I checked, second
> I am regular user of both and actually find them pretty usable *and*
> efficient and third, but not last, banshee is pulling in mono stuff,
> which is first a bit controversial (a really tiny bit, mostly caused by
> the fact that C# was developed by a certain company that people in *nix
> world don't usually have pleasant tea parties with) and second, most
> importantly, for the Desktop Live Spin it's another ~30 MiB worth of
> packages...


Rhythmbox is not the default GNOME mediaplayer, GNOME only ships Totem.

Till such a time as Fedora deems Mono non-free, the fact that Mono and
banshee is present means it lives up to the strict guidelines for freedom
Fedora requires and should be able to be considered on equal footing. If we
are second class citizens without any chance of ever being included please
tell us officially, I am sure I and the other people working tirelessly to
improve Mono would love to know if we are wasting our time, if that is the
case it might save everyone a lot of headaches and wasted manhours of
contributions that could be invested in non-Fedora venue which is interested
in this work.

I am aware of the media size increase, it is noted as a con. I know there is
space to be saved by getting the debug stripper fixed to understand mono as
every package currently ships those included since this functionality still
isn't present. i have also been able to shave a bit off cleaning out the
dependency chain. I am also investigating other improvements to our mono
stack which should give size decreases for the entire stack.


> Also from what I read, it also joins the functionality of video and
> audio players... Well, while there is some non-zero intersection of
> those, I don't quite like having it both managed by one app. That's not
> how gnome apps usually do it.


I have to admit I kinda like it, I was skeptical at first. Where it really
starts to shine is for video podcasts, automatically downloaded (and with a
bit of dbus magic even torrent payloads can be downloaded which is really
powerful not to mention shiny). There is an increasing intersection of
differing kinds of media in peoples collections, vodcasts, music videos, tv
shows, movies, e.g. I believe it's valuable to interact with them through
the same library and application.

- David Nielsen
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