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Adam Jackson ajax at redhat.com
Mon Nov 23 20:44:33 UTC 2009


On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 11:58 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
> On 11/23/2009 11:53 AM, Colin Walters wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:51 PM, John Poelstra<poelstra at redhat.com>  wrote:
> >> Does this mean that there will no longer be a bootable Live CD? Assuming
> >> this is the case, wow will this affect the media we give away at shows?
> >
> > Is show media typically CD or is it DVD?  Can it be DVD for most
> > cases, or would that be problematic?
> 
> Show media has been both LiveCD and DVD.
> 
> The LiveCD has always been a nice thing to encourage people to try 
> because it can be tried without installing or overwriting their existing 
> system.  So to me this is a loss because I doubt we'll be giving out USB 
> keys from a cost perspective.

There's no intrinsic reason to break writing the live image to a DVD.
You can already write the "live CD" image to a DVD.  (And in fact this
is typically a better user experience; DVD drives typically have far
better seek times and read speed since the media is denser.)

A single-layer MiniDVD is about 1.4G, which will hold the 1G live image
target easily.  The first google hit I found for Mini-DVD replication
has it at about $2.25/each at a quantity of 300, where they do 700M CDs
for $1.17/each at that quantity.  Amusingly they'll do 4.7G DVDs for
$1.75/each at that quantity, so it's clearly nothing to do with material
cost.  For the burn-your-own crowd, CDW sells 100-packs of blank 4.7G
DVDs for about $40, and 100-packs of blank CDs for about $30.  It's
certainly more expensive, but I'm skeptical that it's prohibitively
expensive.

There _is_ a set of users we're excluding here, which is the set of
users that can only boot from CD and not DVD or USB.  I think, at this
point in time, anyone with a machine in that sad category is already
poorly served by the Live CD, for seek time reasons if nothing else.
Besides, that's what the netinst ISO is for.

- ajax
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