Fedora 13 Schedule

[Matthias Clasen]

On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 13:09 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
> On 11/25/2009 05:58 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 19:44 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 15:57 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The basic structure of Fedora 13 schedule has been set and will soon go
> >>> to FESCo for final approval.  Once that happens I will build proposed
> >>> schedules for: Documentation, Translation, Design, Marketing, and Websites.
> >>>
> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule
> >>> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-releng-tasks.html
> >>>
> >>> If you have constructive feedback for altering or enhancing the
> >>> schedule, now is the time to give it.  If it would be helpful to create
> >>> a public Desktop specific schedule I'd be glad to help with that as well.
> >>
> >> I don't think I have much constructive feedback, other than that the
> >> development phase seems very short, with holidays and whatnot.
> >
> > I was just looking at that as well, and have came up with 5 months of
> > development/testing (including from date F12 was released) for the
> > cycle?  Just curious, isn't that kind of short?  And as stated above,
> > not even realy 5 months, since all the major holidays are included in
> > this cycle.
> >
> 
> Fedora does not usually factor in holidays.  I've attempted to include 
> them in previous schedule drafts, but they were dismissed by others as 
> not being relevant to Fedora since we don't have official work days, 
> office hours, etc..  Granted if a serious freeze or release date 
> occurred during a major holiday period I'm sure they would reconsider, 
> but our release dates are such that they don't.

I've seen plenty of earlier discussion where rel-eng was carefully
trying to triangulate the release date around thanksgiving or easter.
It seems somewhat unfair to say that rel-eng get to take holidays, but
developers are expected to work straight through... :-)


> The flip side of this is Jesse's mention in another post about the 
> branch for Fedora 13 being open before the end of Fedora 12 and the thus 
> development being longer than five months.  I'm not sure how this works 
> out in reality for development--if they can really take advantage of the 
> early opening of the next release or if 95% of their energy remains 
> focused on the release at hand.

If we want to get away from the 'just a feature dump' and 'just a beta'
monikers, we'll have to face the fact that it does not work out in
practise, at some point.