Some recent changes

Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com
Tue Oct 20 17:47:08 UTC 2009


On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 13:31 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:

> Moving forward, for F13, could we propose a feature called 'small effort
> / big impact polish'? We could brainstorm early on these sorts of
> changes we might make to the desktop default configuration and enumerate
> them on the wiki? Maybe if they are clearly communicated up front using
> the Features page, at the beginning of the cycle, folks could get more
> used to the idea / know its coming with a little less stress / perceived
> risk. The 'implementation' work for this 'feature' during the cycle
> would be less actual development and more doing any research /
> comparative studies / usability testing needed to help make a call on them.
> 
> In short, I don't want us to lose out on big impact polish changes, but
> I also don't think the ends always justify the means. I do understand
> the concern that discussing these sorts of changes openly will turn into
> a useless flame-fest, but if we can apply just a little bit of structure
> to that (maybe a designated feedback period is scheduled into the f13
> feature, for example) the feared flame-fest could be avoided.

I'm not sure it needs to be that, um, carefully engineered :) just
making the changes a bit earlier in the cycle and explaining them (with
rationale) on this list or in a planet-carried blog post would be fine,
I think. Of course, if there's enthusiasm behind doing it in that
structured way, that's great too. But I don't think it's _required_.

but for this release we _did_ have the Fit and Finish project, this
would have seemed to fit perfectly in with that agenda, and that was
mostly active much earlier in the release cycle, so again I just can't
quite see why Matthias seems to be saying it wasn't possible to make
these changes earlier in the cycle. I just genuinely can't see why
that's the case.

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