Fedora 14 Beta RC2 (inc. live) available for desktop testing

[Peter Robinson]

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 15:51 +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
>> I haven't managed to test out the specific package as to prepare a
>> system while orca is broken is a bit hard, but I can confirm just
>> installing python-xlib (I did the command: yum --assumeyes python-xlib)
>> does allow orca to run.
>>
>> However I think there is still a problem somewhere in the accessibility
>> chain as orca isn't reporting any information on what has focus, etc. As
>> I said the GTK warning you mentioned does concern me, if atk-bridge
>> cannot be found then GTK is not going to be providing information to
>> at-spi (that's my understanding). Someone on the orca list has suggested
>> setting a gconf key (/desktop/gnome/interface/at-spi-dbus to true so
>> that GTK knows to use that version of atk-bridge.
>
> I'm definitely worried about this too. It also points up the fact that
> we have no accessibility release criteria, which is a bad omission, we
> should add some. Would you be available for an off-list discussion to
> educate me in a11y stuff so I can write up some criteria?

I think from a couple of bug reports I've seen that some of the
accessibility (not sure how much, to what extent or what desktops) has
been broken for 2-3 releases.

> In RC3, with the orca dependency fixed, orca does run, and we're down to
> just one warning at the console on the desktop spin when starting any
> GNOME app. I'll investigate that as much as I can when I'm done with
> desktop validation testing.
>
>> As a side question, is it possible for me to SSH or something like that,
>> into the live environment so I possibly can get some of this information
>> on my own and not have to enter commands just hoping I have typed it
>> correct?
>
> As Bruno says, I think sshd is not running by default. You'd have to
> bring the network up and start sshd before you could connect, I'm
> afraid.

Its definitely not running by default but I think the firewall rules
allow it by default so you shouldn't have to change those.

Peter