F20 offline updates: way too frequent

[Naheem Zaffar]

The default notification required a reboot to action.

(If you ingore it and shutdown, the updates will not be carried out or
prompted at next boot).

An issue is that even though you dont hve to reboot straight away,
knowing that there are updates that need to be applied through
rebooting is itself a nag. Too many and people will get desensitised
to the need to apply updates and that is IMO a bad thing.

Knowing that your system is not up to date can also cause a feel of
unease when using the system.

Updates are important but there is a social aspect to them too.
physical notification should be on a weekly basis and upon booting the
system they should be automatically applied or a prompt given so that
you can apply them and not boot, then reboot to get the updates.

On 28 December 2013 19:08, Monty Montgomery <xiphmont at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In a free movement, no one dictates that you need to keep pace except your own values, and if you don't like it, do whatever you prefer.
>
> How deliciously passive aggressive.
>
>> You can usually get away with not rebooting right away, but you need to be aware that you aren't going to get kernel or shared library fixes right away, which can leave security vulnerabilities in some cases.
>
> That's the case now.  ....wait, did anything actually change?  The
> original complaint sounded like reboots were suddenly being forced in
> a way they weren't before.
>
> Monty
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Richard Vickery
> <richard.vickeryrv at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro at gnome.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2013-12-28 at 13:29 -0500, Monty Montgomery wrote:
>>> > I'd have thought the problem is not daily updates, but daily updates
>>> > that require logout or reboot.
>>>
>>> To be clear: every update requires reboot in Fedora 20 GNOME. (You have
>>> to go out of your way, by using yum/dnf or gpk-update-viewer, if you
>>> want to avoid reboots.)
>>>
>> Let me suggest again that you do not need to keep up. In a free movement, no
>> one dictates that you need to keep pace except your own values, and if you
>> don't like it, do whatever you prefer.
>>
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