LISA conference, Fedora, and the sysadmin use case.

[Robyn Bergeron]

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> From: "Máirín Duffy" <duffy at fedoraproject.org>
> To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop" <desktop at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Cc: "Matthew Miller" <mattdm at fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:09:55 AM
> Subject: Re: LISA conference, Fedora, and the sysadmin use case.
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> On 11/14/2013 10:39 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 08:18:51 -0500,
> >   Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >>  - handling of many multiple terminal windows
> > 
> > What were they looking for here? I use workspace switcher on XFCE with
> > 12 or 15 workspaces and use each workspace for a standard application or
> > terminal window with an ssh connection to a particular host. By being
> > consistent about what is where it is easy to go to a desired application
> > or terminal session.

I think it's what mizmo referred to below - the gnome-shell case - it is just a sea of black boxes in the overview if you have too many open. and while i think there's definitely cases where people can just be more organized about their desktop usage or use workspaces more efficiently - there's also a case to be made for the admin who doesn't keep windows open to every host (anyone with any significant number of machines, basically), who might want to troubleshoot a handful of machines at once, etc. 

> 
> FWIW what I've observed in an unrelated usability study (one we did for
> systemd that involved working with terminals) is in gnome-shell, when
> you go to the overview you have a bunch of black rectangles (the
> terminal thumbs) that all look the same, so the task of identifying
> which black rectangle was the right one to click on to get the terminal
> you needed was challenging.

While it may be more of a "developer use case" than a "sysadmin use case" - I can certainly attest to the frustration of the other half of my household with the "which black rectangle" problem - his work typically involves needing numerous multiple terminal windows open simultaneously for coding, testing, tracing issues, etc. "How am I supposed to find anything?! I can't even see what is in the windows unless I click on them..."

-robyn



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