Updated Fedora Workstation PRD draft

[Lynn Dixon]

Matthew,
I agree with you completely. I am one of those use cases of a Sys Admin
whom manages about 100 RHEL machines. I use Fedora on my laptop to do my
duties,  but its not ideal.  I shy away from Gnome and typically use
Cinnamon or KDE.
On Nov 27, 2013 7:18 PM, "Matthew Miller" <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:01:25AM +0100, drago01 wrote:
> > > I don't think we should aim at the general user, because not only is
> that
> > > nebulous, it has all of those same problems.
> > That happens to be what every successful desktop (and mobile) OS have
> > been doing.
> > They built a system that is generally useful, they don't really care
> > whether you are a developer, graphics designer, gamer or whatever.
> >
> > If the operating system works for the general user case it works for
> > pretty much everything else (it is just a matter of installing the
> > right applications / tools).
> >
> > An operating system designed for a specific user type is doomed to end
> > up being a niche OS.
>
> We're always going to be a niche OS, at least on the desktop -- which is,
> itself, an increasingly small niche. But, let me restate my initial point.
> It's great if we can be totally awesome for everyone, and sure, it's fine
> to
> try for it. *And*, within that subset of everyone, there are some people we
> want to make particularly happy.
>
> One subset that I've identified is the one I mentioned -- the sysadmin who
> runs RHEL or Fedora server systems and has Fedora on his or her desktop.
> The
> entire LISA conference was _full_ of these people. As I mentioned in the
> earlier thread, they don't all use Gnome, but they do use Fedora, and very
> well _could_ use Gnome if we tailored the experience to their needs.
>
> I think it's completely fair to say that previously, we've responded to
> feedback from this demographic with "well, you're not a general user --
> you're a weird special case". What I want is to acknowledge that even after
> all these years of that, this is still our loyal base, and to make every
> one
> of those feel like we are actually directly listening to their concerns
> (even if they can't all be addressed).
>
> That's what _I_ want out of a Fedora Workstation product. If there are
> other
> classes of user where the same sort of feeling applies as well, let's
> include those too. Maybe that *is* developers, although as expressed, I'm
> skeptical. Maybe it's the maker/designer market -- at least the Creative
> Commons / Free Culture segment of it. Those aren't areas where I have a
> huge
> amount of history, interaction, or feedback from users. I talk about the
> sysadmin case because there I *do* have those things and I'm quite sure of
> myself.
>
> Is this a matter of just installing the right applications and tools?
> Maybe.
> It also involves being responsive to feedback, and testing changes with
> that
> audience to make sure that they actually make the experience better as
> intended, rather than becoming an irritation.
>
>
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