ABRT?

[Josh Boyer]

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Allan Day <allanpday at gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
>>> But the client-side of abrt is so prone to quality of implementation
>>> issues that I might agree that it would be best to remove it and start
>>> over. ...
>
> I agree that we need to address these user experience issues as a
> matter of urgency. We also need to drive up quality in Fedora of
> course, and that requires high-quality data on crashers. We need a
> plan to ensure that we get this.
>
> The first step is to identify our requirements, as well as any
> verifiable issues that currently exist. (I know that Jon McCann did a
> lot of work in this area, so we're not starting from a blank slate.)
> Once we have that, we can have a conversation with the ABRT team.
> Disabling or not including ARBT in F21 *might* make sense, but that
> decision really needs to be made as part of a wider strategy, and it
> needs to be a decision that the ABRT team themselves participate in.
>
> Discussions about dropping something from a release on the basis of
> anecdotal evidence isn't especially helpful. Likewise, having that
> discussion without the involvement of the concerned parties isn't a
> healthy way to do business, and could well sour the relations that we
> need to develop in order to produce the kind of product that we want.

Yes!  Very well put.  Thanks.

josh